Sorry Another Pack Weight Question

[Morris]

I am 6'4" 300 lbs and currently got pack weight including 2L of water(4.4lbs) and 6.6lbs of food. Makes my pack weight 52lbs.

Unfortunately I do not have a scale that can weigh things in grams or ounces. I was curious if this was an alright weight or not for my size. At ideal weight for large frame and 6'4" is 181-207 and having pack be 1/5 that weight is around 40-45 ideal. So that puts me slightly over using those guidelines.

Thanks all.

And are tent stakes worth taking? Or take only 4 or so for corners and rain-fly or what? Seems like some weight I could rid myself of if I don't need those.

Also is it worth to take the Data Book AND the Thru Hikers guide or just the Thru Hikers guide?

[kayak karl]

tent stakes are the least of your worries.
that 1/5 ratio is for an ideal weight.
post your gear list.
it will help this thread.

[Bags4266]

LOL, worried over 4 tent stakes and your 300lbs. Good one. Serious note though is it 300lb athletic build? or 300 lb not? 50 lb pack is heavy for most but your size requires clothes and sleeping bag of a large and more heavy size. As the last post said put up your gear list.

[Morris]

8gb card
camera
camera battery(x2)
camera case
charger
Ball Cap
bandana
boots
Mittens
nylon gloves
nylon tarp poncho
pants(convertible)
shirt
socks
socks
underwear
winter cap
winter fleece
winter pants
wool socks
Fuel
lighter
Pot
Propane Stove
spoon
waterproof matches
Bandaids
butterfly strips
gauze pads
neosporion
technu
tweezers
chapstick
floss
gold bond
hand sanitizer
toilet paper
tooth brush
tooth paste
flashlight
headlamp
1L water bottle
1L water bottle
3L bladder
cell phone
cell phone charger
cell phone extra battery
journal
pen
Sleeping Bag
sleeping pad
Tent
3 Dry bags
backpack
garbage bag(x2)
extra ziplock bags(1 of 3 different sizes)
50' Nylon Cord
compass
duct tape
guide book
guide book
pocket bible
knife
multitool
needle
thread
walking sticks
watch

I think that it. Like I don't have a ounce or gram scale.

[Sierra Echo]

Unless you are planning on summiting Mt Everest you don't need all those winter clothes, much less two different pairs of gloves. Exactly WHERE are you going? And if you are planning an attempt on Everest, I want to go!

[earlyriser26]

Two easy drops: flashlight (you only need the headlamp), If you have a cell phone charger, why do you need the extra battery?

[earlyriser26]

Also watch, cell phone will work most places as a watch

[earlyriser26]

Don't really need a compass if you are on the AT.

[Morris]

Unless you are planning on summiting Mt Everest you don't need all those winter clothes, much less two different pairs of gloves. Exactly WHERE are you going? And if you are planning an attempt on Everest, I want to go!

no lol. Do I not need winter pants? I just have a pair of pants and fleece pullover. Mittens better than gloves I assume?

[Sierra Echo]

no lol. Do I not need winter pants? I just have a pair of pants and fleece pullover. Mittens better than gloves I assume?

well you never said where you were going! I think gloves are better then mittens.

[Morris]

well you never said where you were going! I think gloves are better then mittens.

the AT, sorry

[Turtle Feet]

You can get the KJV Bible on your phone (smartphone)
Personally, I'm taking only the NOBO AT Guide (and only a few pages at a time)
1 Garbage bag
What's a technu?
Compass not necessary
Alcohol stove would be much lighter
Camera case probably not necessary depending on where you're carrying it
Mittens not necessary depending on warmth of gloves
Is winter fleece a top of some sort?
What are 'winter pants'?
No need for flashlight with a headlamp
Drop the gold bond & hand sanitizer

As for the tent stakes, yes, you do need them, but you can buy lightweight titanium ones at www.zpacks.com

See you out there!!!

tf

[Morris]

Winter fleece just a long sleeve pull over like sweatshirt type thing. For warmth. Winter pants the same. Just for legs. Convertible pants are extremely thin. Just not sure if I "really" need the pants but def would need the shirt to cover arms.

Technu takes away poison ivy etc. I touch it and get it. Not sure if it is a huge issue but growing up in kentucky and living in alabama it everywhere in the woods.

[Turtle Feet]

You're from FL, lucky guy, but I'm gonna just say that a fleece pullover while maybe warm enough in FL, isn't going to be warm enough on it's own - I'd recommend at least a thin insulation layer that can be added in cold weather. I think the fleece pants are alot of bulk and weight, I'd shoot for silk thermals you could wear under your convertable pants. I didn't see any thermals on the list.

Interesting, never heard o Technu - learn somethin' new every day!

I've got a packing list on my postholer site, you could take a look at some other clothing/layering options...

tf

[hobbs]

You're from FL, lucky guy, but I'm gonna just say that a fleece pullover while maybe warm enough in FL, isn't going to be warm enough on it's own - I'd recommend at least a thin insulation layer that can be added in cold weather. I think the fleece pants are alot of bulk and weight, I'd shoot for silk thermals you could wear under your convertable pants. I didn't see any thermals on the list.

Interesting, never heard o Technu - learn somethin' new every day!

I've got a packing list on my postholer site, you could take a look at some other clothing/layering options...

tf

Morris I would take TT suggestion about thermals. I live here in Virginia on the trail and hike in a light baselayer thermal and convertable pants. There more than confertible to hike in and stand around in 20 degree weather..I weight a buck 159 wet LOL and your a big guy...

[Morris]

With suggestions I've gotten to 44.6lbs including the 6.6lbs of food and 4.4lbs of water. So 33.3lbs without food/water.

And thanks btw for the help

[hobbs]

With suggestions I've gotten to 44.6lbs including the 6.6lbs of food and 4.4lbs of water. So 33.3lbs without food/water.

And thanks btw for the help

You think it's possible to take it down a little more? I think it may make your trip a little more easy and enjoyable..

[Morris]

You think it's possible to take it down a little more? I think it may make your trip a little more easy and enjoyable..

Yea I'm trying to go through it all over and over and not taking anything I would never use or is not something I need. Problem is stuff like tent are heavy like 4-5lbs. 2 person Marmot Lightweight. 6'4" creates those problems I guess lol. Like do I really need the tarp that comes with the tent? Personally I've never used one before when hiking/camping but been raining like crazy last 2 weeks so wasn't sure. What I've read online is mixed about it.

[hobbs]

Yea I'm trying to go through it all over and over and not taking anything I would never use or is not something I need. Problem is stuff like tent are heavy like 4-5lbs. 2 person Marmot Lightweight. 6'4" creates those problems I guess lol. Like do I really need the tarp that comes with the tent? Personally I've never used one before when hiking/camping but been raining like crazy last 2 weeks so wasn't sure. What I've read online is mixed about it.

morris are you going with someone? If not have you thought about a Tarptent? I know your 6'4. I know there's a Tarptent Virga it weighs almost 2pds and it's for 1 person. I just saw it on this site..backpackinglight.com it's in the gear swap section. Also saw a Tarptent Contrail for sale also for $175..These both will save you alot of that weight..

[Turtle Feet]

When are you starting Morris???