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    Default "Woobie" weight?

    ..to all of you who love the "woobie," what is the actual weight of your poncho liner? I've found listed weights of 2 pounds, but this can't be right; this seems to be more like shipping weights. What say ye'?

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    wHAT IS A WOOBIE AND WHAT IS A PONCHO LINER?

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    I suppose that asking what your woobies weight is more polite then asking what is your woobies length.

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    22-23 ounces. I have a couple.
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    Looks like a poncho to me. Never knew they had liners for ponchos. Is a woobie another name for a poncho liner?

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    Bearpaw, what temp. would you estimate these to be intended for -40/50/60-degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nean View Post
    Looks like a poncho to me. Never knew they had liners for ponchos. Is a woobie another name for a poncho liner?
    A poncho liner is a rectangular synthetic quilt, weighs about 22-23 oz, is warm down to about 50 degrees, and has tie-outs so you can tie it directly to the grommets on a standard issue poncho. Used together, you get a mostly waterproof burrito warm down into the 40's. I've spent MANY nights wrapped in one on patrols.

    I still carry a poncho liner in warm weather instead of a sleeping bag or shaped quilt. For $20-30 in a surplus store, a poncho liner is a real steal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearpaw View Post
    A poncho liner is a rectangular synthetic quilt, weighs about 22-23 oz, is warm down to about 50 degrees, and has tie-outs so you can tie it directly to the grommets on a standard issue poncho. Used together, you get a mostly waterproof burrito warm down into the 40's. I've spent MANY nights wrapped in one on patrols.

    I still carry a poncho liner in warm weather instead of a sleeping bag or shaped quilt. For $20-30 in a surplus store, a poncho liner is a real steal.
    Thanks Bearpaw- thats good to know. Are they called woobies?

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    Better Question: Why woobie?

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    I originally intended to pack up my woobie into my AT thru hike list, but then I weighed it and decided against it. My postal scale put it at 23 ounces, which is as much as my under quilt and overquilt weigh combined. I do love my woobie though, and use it on many of my summer trips. I haven't tried it below 45 degrees, so I don't know how low it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nean View Post
    Thanks Bearpaw- thats good to know. Are they called woobies?

    Anyone in the military now, or is familiar with the military language, knows a poncho liner by the name woobie. I googled it and apparently there is a Keaton movie called "Mr. Mom" in which a kid calls his security blanket "Woobie" and thats where we picked it up from.

    My understanding is that it is a relatively new term in regards to the poncho liner, but it spread like wildfire and is now commonplace.

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    woobie is a fairly common name for a "security blanket" in baby talk somewhere in America. I'm told GI's attached the name to the poncho liner sometime post Viet Nam era.

    They weigh about 1 1/2 pounds.

    I modified mine with a head hole in the middle and used it as a camp jacket until I got a down jacket.

    As a bag liner, it makes my Kelty 24 deg comfortable into the teens.
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    My kifaru Gen 1 woobie with the 40 degree insulation is about 1 pound and 6 ounces while the GI poncho liner is about 1 pound and 12 ounces. The Kifaru is warmer by 10-15 degrees and packs smaller. the new Gen 2 Woobies are a little heavier but they are longer and wider now so you can better use them like a blanket.

    The GI one will be comfortable (for me at least) down to 55-60 degrees and 50 is pushing it. The Kifaru version will keep me warm down to 40 degrees.

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    UPDATE: The newer ones now have zippers along two sides and are now part of a layered sleeping system including a bag, woobie, base layer, heavier weight layer, and a down "happy suit". The weight will likely have changed but I still love my woobie and have used it into the 40s with base layers without too much issue. I have been thinking of using it or my older non-zipper one in the warmer months rather than my 30* bag in my hammock.

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    Several years ago, I sewed up an Uber-Woobie using 6oz Climashield Apex for insulation. It weighs a hair over 2#, but keeps me warm down to the mid-20's. It's not my favorite sleeping bag/quilt. The standard issue woobie is only good to about 45°.
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