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    Quote Originally Posted by hikerboy57 View Post
    whatever hasnt yet been put into book form is right here on WB. although i like LWs idea, maybe with just a tad of kerouac.
    i've read that overrated kerouac stuff BORING

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    i've read that overrated kerouac stuff BORING
    some is, some isnt. dharma bums was my favorite.and although i enjoy the monkey wrench books, desert solitaire is still abbeys best writing(IMHO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    This one is easy. I want a long and in-depth account of birthing the feisty turtlehead in the field, for starters. Is it a two handed struggle or one? Has stool landed on your untied boot laces as you hover over a cathole? Have you ever had to birth an angry Turd on paper towels inside a tent during a blizzard?? Etc. Then I want long screeds on Man's war against nature since, heck, the writer is supposedly living in nature, right? I want rants on overhead jet planes, roaring adjacent motorcycles, and all the rest of the garbage of our heavy-handed intrusion into the mountains of the Appalachian Trail.

    Then I need some long pages on gear and the weaknesses of each piece of gear used---for no tent or bag or pad is perfect. Just be honest and point out the flaws. Finally, I gotta have some mystical stuff about our relationship with the Woman of the Cold and the Wind, Miss Nature.

    walter, i've got that one percolating for you. it's called, "keychain's moldering privy ***hole." this tale of intrigue and depravity chronicles my fellow city-boy and his early attempt at pooing on cheoah bald. readers will marvel at his sustained use of the crab-walk position, cringe in terror as he rips his last paper square, and laugh out loud as he reaches for the brown leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Thunder View Post
    walter, i've got that one percolating for you. it's called, "keychain's moldering privy ***hole." this tale of intrigue and depravity chronicles my fellow city-boy and his early attempt at pooing on cheoah bald. readers will marvel at his sustained use of the crab-walk position, cringe in terror as he rips his last paper square, and laugh out loud as he reaches for the brown leaves.
    FINALLY, THE VOICE OF REASON. People who backpack all the time need a backpacker's book on such events---along with the usual trails walked, shelters used and miles hiked. Here's a few more, from a book yet unbound---

    ARCTIC MIDWIFERY
    It takes a special breed of individual to strip half naked and to birth a mean and angry turtlehead into the snowy and frozen ground of a high mountain bald. Few are called, all must squat. Young Nanook was conceived from a meal I ate two days ago and after a 48 hour gestation was birthed using the Tundra Method: Slap him down on the snow and run like hell.
    A true tundra baby will quickly form an igloo of stool and in several minutes will be as frozen as the snow around him. Ah, but yesterday I dug an unused hole so today Young Nanook's nursery was already prepared for immediate usage. Shunka The Dog as a carnivore would've eaten Young Nanook but he was across camp and I had Nanook buried quickly before Shunka's approaching breakfast.

    POST PARTUM GLEE
    Many people get post birth depression, but not me, the last thing I think about after squatting to release a young turtlehead is suicide, in fact, each birth makes me want to live that much more. So let's hear it for the humble turtlehead and though it gives its life smothered and buried, it allows us to go forward into the bright light of a new day, etc.



    TURTLEHEAD REPORT
    (Those easily offended should turn away). I went outside in the unstrung boots(still frozen)and squatted by the tent and birthed a healthy turtlehead atop the surface of the snow where it will remain until tomorrow when I'll have time to dig a proper hole and transport it in one frozen brick balanced on two sticks. As long as I don't step outside and get turtle-crocked, I'll be okay. Or maybe Shunka will find it and feast.



    THE VIOLENT TURTLEHEAD
    So wouldn't you know it but the first order of business after setting up the tent was to go off the ridge a bit and scrape out a hole to homebirth an angry and violent turtlehead. This newborn came in at 6.8 pounds, feisty with a fully functioning arm and hand as it reached out and tripped me up as I was walking away. And I heard a muffled chortle right before I fell.

    THE FROZEN TURTLEHEAD
    The normal non-Inuit turtlehead hates winter backpacking and the backpackers who do it, because since they regularly go from 100 degrees to zero(atop snow no less)in about one nano(nanal?)second--they hardly have time to survey their new kingdom before they are frozen solid. A completely frozen turtlehead though still lives and woe be to the idiot who picks up what seems to be a hard, solid wood-like object only later to find it to be, when thawed, a steaming, angry and pissed off human turd.

    It's not a reptile, a frisbee or a polished chunk of knotwood, it's now a breathing, pulsating, unburied turtlehead, the worst kind. If discovered, drop immediately and call no one. Never shove soiled hands down into pants as the smell of a foreign turtlehead will elicit your own yet-unborn turtlehead to emerge from hiding to investigate in fighting form and possibly wanting intimate congress or abruptly posturing itself in a fight or flight response. If you have an alpha turtlehead buried in your shorts, be prepared for an all out fight to the death.
    On the other hand, the flight response will drive your own turtlehead deeper and higher into your body, possibly up into your chest cavity or throat. Good luck. All this can be avoided by not backpacking in the winter, and if you do pick up a frozen turtlehead by mistake, don't be around when it thaws.

    TO SHOVE OR NOT TO SHOVE
    There's nothing as disturbing and yet as fulfilling as having to birth a combative and hysterical turtlehead into a cold morning snow and then having it look back at you with it's mournful brown eyes pleading to be reinserted and not left to freeze and be buried in a colon-less world. It takes a strong man to walk away from his own progeny and to become a dead beat Dad(dung-beat Dad?), and yet to placate, raise, retain and nurture one's own turd leads to distention, fecal impaction, severe lethargy and eventual unconsciousness. Better to have shoved and lost than to never have shoved at all.

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    Please no more on the Life Changing Spirituality of hiking the AT. Please no. I can't take it. Stop, stop. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    FINALLY, THE VOICE OF REASON. People who backpack all the time need a backpacker's book on such events---along with the usual trails walked, shelters used and miles hiked. Here's a few more, from a book yet unbound---

    ARCTIC MIDWIFERY
    It takes a special breed of individual to strip half naked and to birth a mean and angry turtlehead into the snowy and frozen ground of a high mountain bald. Few are called, all must squat. Young Nanook was conceived from a meal I ate two days ago and after a 48 hour gestation was birthed using the Tundra Method: Slap him down on the snow and run like hell.
    A true tundra baby will quickly form an igloo of stool and in several minutes will be as frozen as the snow around him. Ah, but yesterday I dug an unused hole so today Young Nanook's nursery was already prepared for immediate usage. Shunka The Dog as a carnivore would've eaten Young Nanook but he was across camp and I had Nanook buried quickly before Shunka's approaching breakfast.

    POST PARTUM GLEE
    Many people get post birth depression, but not me, the last thing I think about after squatting to release a young turtlehead is suicide, in fact, each birth makes me want to live that much more. So let's hear it for the humble turtlehead and though it gives its life smothered and buried, it allows us to go forward into the bright light of a new day, etc.



    TURTLEHEAD REPORT
    (Those easily offended should turn away). I went outside in the unstrung boots(still frozen)and squatted by the tent and birthed a healthy turtlehead atop the surface of the snow where it will remain until tomorrow when I'll have time to dig a proper hole and transport it in one frozen brick balanced on two sticks. As long as I don't step outside and get turtle-crocked, I'll be okay. Or maybe Shunka will find it and feast.



    THE VIOLENT TURTLEHEAD
    So wouldn't you know it but the first order of business after setting up the tent was to go off the ridge a bit and scrape out a hole to homebirth an angry and violent turtlehead. This newborn came in at 6.8 pounds, feisty with a fully functioning arm and hand as it reached out and tripped me up as I was walking away. And I heard a muffled chortle right before I fell.

    THE FROZEN TURTLEHEAD
    The normal non-Inuit turtlehead hates winter backpacking and the backpackers who do it, because since they regularly go from 100 degrees to zero(atop snow no less)in about one nano(nanal?)second--they hardly have time to survey their new kingdom before they are frozen solid. A completely frozen turtlehead though still lives and woe be to the idiot who picks up what seems to be a hard, solid wood-like object only later to find it to be, when thawed, a steaming, angry and pissed off human turd.

    It's not a reptile, a frisbee or a polished chunk of knotwood, it's now a breathing, pulsating, unburied turtlehead, the worst kind. If discovered, drop immediately and call no one. Never shove soiled hands down into pants as the smell of a foreign turtlehead will elicit your own yet-unborn turtlehead to emerge from hiding to investigate in fighting form and possibly wanting intimate congress or abruptly posturing itself in a fight or flight response. If you have an alpha turtlehead buried in your shorts, be prepared for an all out fight to the death.
    On the other hand, the flight response will drive your own turtlehead deeper and higher into your body, possibly up into your chest cavity or throat. Good luck. All this can be avoided by not backpacking in the winter, and if you do pick up a frozen turtlehead by mistake, don't be around when it thaws.

    TO SHOVE OR NOT TO SHOVE
    There's nothing as disturbing and yet as fulfilling as having to birth a combative and hysterical turtlehead into a cold morning snow and then having it look back at you with it's mournful brown eyes pleading to be reinserted and not left to freeze and be buried in a colon-less world. It takes a strong man to walk away from his own progeny and to become a dead beat Dad(dung-beat Dad?), and yet to placate, raise, retain and nurture one's own turd leads to distention, fecal impaction, severe lethargy and eventual unconsciousness. Better to have shoved and lost than to never have shoved at all.
    Walter,I think the folks might need some pictures on this one.Ya no the money shot,one good ole $--t eat'in What da you say?

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    Del Q:

    It's been a long and quiet winter. Answer to your question....yeah, it's a work in progress. But it may be awhile. Thanks for asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin View Post
    Answer to your question....yeah, it's a work in progress. But it may be awhile. Thanks for asking.
    Jack, it’d be interesting to read your historical perspective of Don West’s (1906-1992) influence on the AT hiking community.
    http://www.northcarolinahistory.org/...edia/454/entry, Paragraph 6
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Highlander_Folk_School
    http://folklifecenter.org/default.aspx

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    Stoned Flea maybe about hiking with a dog? Even make it thru the eyes of your dog.
    Looking forward to a book from Balitmore Jack had no clue he was even thinking about putting something like that together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizirlou View Post
    Jack, it’d be interesting to read your historical perspective of Don West’s (1906-1992) influence on the AT hiking community.
    http://www.northcarolinahistory.org/...edia/454/entry, Paragraph 6
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Highlander_Folk_School
    http://folklifecenter.org/default.aspx
    Even a history buff like jack has more to do than respond to your troll bait, on something that has nothing to do with this subject or the AT.
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    You never know which one is talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingedMonkey View Post
    Even a history buff like jack has more to do than respond to your troll bait, on something that has nothing to do with this subject or the AT.
    Bulloney. The topic is about books. Jack’s evidently writing one. I told him what I’d like to read. He’s a walking encyclopedia of trail knowledge, and the mountain of AT books to date don’t even scratch the surface. Plus I didn’t ask him to open the discussion here, but in his book. Don West had an impact on AT hikers, whether they realize it or not. It’s a valid historical topic for Jack’s book. Why’re you making an incendiary book-burning-ish statement like that? Stop the name-calling. I think you’re trolling for incendiary value.

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    How about a female perspective that doesn't involve tears. Or better yet, a book that captures the experience in its entirety. Less look at what I did and more of look at what I saw and the people I met. Or perhaps a collection of stories from different hikers with different perspectives.

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    for me at least, it's not just what a certain book is about, but the way it is written. i've read books on topics i don't even consider the least bit entertaining, but yet a certain writer's take on it - his/her angle - and the style of writing has made it more than interesting for me.

    i've read a number of books on hiker accounts, and the ones i truly enjoy, and in some cases, absolutely love, are the ones that are written well and with an unusual style or sense of humor. and they might be the same type of story that has already been written hundreds of times.

    that's why i think bryson's book was so popular - aside from the fact that he is well-know. he's a very good writer and people enjoy his work.

    The bad books - and documentaries as well - come from people who simply don't know their craft. but that still doesn't mean they shouldn't go for it anyway and maybe, just maybe learn something along the way.

    no one has ever re-invented the wheel, but it has been greatly improved over centuries, and it's because someone chose to take that wheel, and instead of altering it's function or purpose, made it either more easily accessible, acceptable, user friendly, or added a twist of something of their own.

    everyone's book or documentary or song is going to be different than any of the others all of the time, because they will be written, or shot, or recorded by YOU and not someone else.

    There's always an audience for anything.

    by the way, is it just me, but in spite of all the great informative posts and discussion on this site, whiteblaze does a really good job of sucking the life out and killing the spirit of anything someone aspires to if too many people here have seen it/heard it/done it too many times?

    THAT'S what really get old to me!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikes in Rain View Post
    More about the history and lore of the various areas...Past history, on the other hand, is either scarce or I've missed it.
    Me too, with a dash of the absurd like Tipi’s turtleheads.

    University archives are a surprisingly good source of info – recall how many people have posted to inquire about various aspects of the AT as a starting point for their academic research. If you know how to mine university archives, it’s a largely untapped gold mine for prospective authors. That’s where I discovered a remarkable and fascinating paper on the gent who this time shall remain unnamed, to keep the peace with Monkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max patch View Post

    3. This one will never be written, but I'd like a brief paragraph of every relo and "why" it was made. (See, I told you it'd never be written.) I think the best I can hope for is that AT Journeys decides to print a brief recap of future relo's as they occur.
    It seems to me you're always looking for a dubious or negative slant. I have no idea but the most likely reason for relos is land is bought and has become protected. Former trail became eroded to the point maintenance was futile. It was taken off roads, or away from neighborhoods or dwellings. The relos have better views, new shelter area, water.

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    Mizerlou: In recent years I confess to not being much of a fan of the late Mr. West, but this was mainly for political reasons. As for his connections to, or his influence on the Trail, well this is certainly of interest to me and I'll check out the links you suggested. Thank you for sending them along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin View Post
    Mizerlou: I'll check out the links you suggested. Thank you for sending them along.
    The Vault has good stuff online if you use the right keyword search (or FOIA request if you can’t find it online.) NARA has the honey pot, with 2 microfilm research rooms near the Atlanta area. Dig deep, it’s there. There’s a preponderance of disinformation on the pop Internet, political and otherwise, to lead lesser authors astray.

    Keeping it real:
    http://vault.fbi.gov/
    http://www.archives.gov/locations/

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    Besides Jack's book I would love to read one that detailed a conversation between 3 hikers. One from the early days, one from 20 years ago and a one who just finished. Hopefully the conversation would talk about the differences in their experiences (gear, the path of the trail, trail town experiences, etc...) and the similarities that they also experiences.

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    I think one chapter should be dedicated to "**** House Poetry"

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