hahaha! thanks!
hahaha! thanks!
Any time my brother.
i'sa sistah! ; P
Years ago, when I hiked with my first Siberian Husky, I would take him into the shelters with me (yes, we had a HUGE tarp, so that if the shelter was full, we'd be okay). Bandit was NEVER allowed to beg, he was NEVER allowed to roam around the shelter, and he was NEVER allowed to jump up on others (or their equipment). 24-7 that dog was either tethered to me or to a tree that was far enough away from the shelter that he could get in, but only as far as MY stuff (on the one end). Granted, huskies shed, and yes, there was a bit of fur that had to be swept out in the morning, but I always swept out the shelter before I left anyway. No one ever asked us to leave the shelter, but if they had, it would have been no big deal.
Fast-forward 25 years, and now we have lots of people out there (some who even own dogs!) who don't seem to give a rat's @$$ about being considerate of other people's needs...it's ALL about them! (If I wanted to hijack this thread, I'd suggest replacing the word "dog" with the term "Boy Scouts", and see where THAT would take us!) But - to keep us on topic, since there seems to be SO MUCH civility and common decency that's been lost over the last few years, I would suggest that, if asking nicely won't work, you'd better be prepared to tent or tarp to get away from the situation...heck, it might REALLY be the owner that you're allergic to in the first place!
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HEY, my Scouts are just as well behaved as your dog
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on my 1999 thruhike, troop#580 Georgia---Lilburn GA. i meet this group out on the trail, i was able to gain thier respect on how well my dog was well behaved and how well i took care of her, tried my best to inspire the boys with stories of the trail and had a few laughs. when it was time to go,they ask me if i would carry thier troop pin with me to maine. not only was it my privilege to do so! i wore it on my backpack so everyone could see it. i was an honorary trooper :-) i sent it back to them after our trek with a pitcure from baxter peak. i was told they used my story about hiking with a dog and shared it, along with what thruhiking was all about with all the troops at a gathering of all the GA. chapters. great bunch of kids, bet they turned out to be good young men
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Ok ,time to pony up.Me and mine we sleep in a tent,cause that's what we/I like.If asked to move on or away or whatever,I would be glad to accommodate when I can,but "you gotta ask me" nice.That's right I can give as good as I get.But if you roll in from the trail and start with demanding and pointing fingers at my dog,and generally being a stick,your gonna get stuck.Now all that said most of what's going on here,on this thread,does not happen out on the trail.Every body is pretty damn nice.But every once and a while........Whoop there it is.
I cannot believe how far this thread has gone astray. I replied to a few of the responses (and I am the OP) on Post #11 as to how I would proceed, if anyone wants to go back and read...probably not. This is now Post #89! The question was posted in the straightforward question forum area. I just wanted a straightforward answer. I got it. I also received a lot of snide remarks. I thought WB was a forum for folks to learn more about the trail, acquaint themselves with the AT community in general, and generally learn idea's regarding gear, etc. I'm not sure I'll be asking any more questions. It's not that I'm so thin-skinned. It's simply that life has enough controversy 'out there' without courting it on-line, as well. Sorry I asked.
I haven't read the whole thread. But this is a very active "community" and even in the straight forward section, from experience, there will always be a few questionable comments. It's hard for mods to keep up I might add. Sometimes we members don't police ourselves as much as we should. That said, dogs on the trail and in shelters are a contentious issue. The bottom line is that there will be dogs / dog hair / dander in shelters, either when you are there or the day before.
Meh, don't worry about the thread drift, dogs are a touchy subject because of bad owners giving dogs bad reps, don't let the snide remarks stop you from asking questions: the way i look at this site is there is a lot of 'information' you just got pick through everything to find actual valid 'information' so take no offense to the cyber hikers and those that are too bitter, besides the ignore feature works quite well on here!
and my answer to the original question: if your friend is extremely allergic then don't stay in shelters, tent, hammock what ever makes you happy, but stay somewhere that your friend can control the environment of, because its a public trail, there is no controlling what actually happens in shelters, many experienced hikers who have been hiking for a while don't even bother with shelters any more, other than occasionally using the nearby picnic table... if there is no other option but to stay in a shelter, i suggest carrying a large ground cloth, piece of plastic or tyvek or something of that nature to lay down on the shelter floor, and lay it down before he puts any of his belongings in there (and mark which side faces down and up so he isn't sleeping on the exposed side the next night)...
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Over time - (months) the saliva particals become dried out and airborne quality vacume and cleaning will reduce that so would steam cleaning occationally.
Very strange post - the shelter could be overrun with mice and because its not enclosed - how on earth would anyone have a reaction? The real danger here is urine and poop mice have no control of their bladders and urinate on everything they touch... (walk in turn off the lights turn on the BLACKLIGHT and watch your mouth drop) its a little like CSI - dried urine glows. The poop dries out and becomes airborne the pathogens are HANTA VIRUS
Good news - new breakthroughs in medicine and study's suggest for milk allergies are cookies with ever small doses of milk and building up immunity over a year. Peanuts will be the next leap. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Allergi...0#.TxhGuoH2JOM
Really good post bubblegum - Mice run in shelters - Fleas love Mice - your dog must be protected & Fleas transmit diseases. Dogs without protection will infest shelter to shelter!
Cool Pick up _ I forgot urine and thank you.
You have my apology!
We are all focused on a animal love hate relationship here - it's the internet - it would be more intense on other websites. Glad you asked the question - don't get boggled by the minutia.
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Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.
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So, does all this apply to ANY animal I choose to hike with?
I had a dog steal my bagel once and another wet dog run all over my gear but I also met a hiker named Otto who had a dog named Raven. They were great to see the way they interacted. Otto made sure Raven didn't get into peoples face or maybe Raven was just well trained. Otto and Raven made me forget the two jerks.
I still don't want to sleep with a wet dog.
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You can't bring pack animals on the AT, so that eliminates most of what could potentually travel the route like goats, horses, ponies, and donkeys. Which brings up an interesting question. If you put a pack on your dog, does it become a pack animal and is therefore banned from the AT?
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Legally,I think dogs are classified as "Work Dogs" By the KCA but I don't speak about legalities any more.want some ice cream?3...2...1
There's Work Dogs and then there's Service Dogs. Service Dogs provide assistance to a disabled person.
More info here: http://www.ada.gov/qasrvc.htm
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