The ATC and the salaries they pay out

[DaSchwartz]

http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_...201012_990.pdf - so you can all check it out for yourselves, it's public record. The question is, do you think these salaries are kind of high or fair?

David Starzell - $106,800 plus $13,168 other compensation
Stephen Paradis - $95,933 plus $10,877 other compensation

1.9 million dollars in total salaries paid by the ATC for all it's employees.

[Rasty]

As an Executive level manager with 1.9 million in total salaries the pay rate is appropriate. What is the total budget?

[takethisbread]

their revenues went up sharply so the pay is earned. my beef with them is that they are generally a advocacy group, that does some trail maintanance. Perhaps with their revenues the amount of sore spots on the trail particularly in Vermont and Maine shouldnt exist. i only notice them often from Goose Pond Cabin south. but maybe im just missing some of the work that i just didnt notice. it woud be interesting to see a map ofthe past 5 years work and the total dollars spent at each trail project.

[earlyriser26]

Salaries are actually low.

[bigcranky]

Yeah, those salaries are low for the required experience and job duties. Given what the CEO of an average nonprofit in the DC area makes, this is peanuts.

[Pedaling Fool]

It's funny how these threads that involve money get a lot of attention on this site. I can see where this is going

[Sarcasm the elf]

Yeah, those salaries are low for the required experience and job duties. Given what the CEO of an average nonprofit in the DC area makes, this is peanuts.

I absolutely agree. A person with the skill and background required to run an organization like the ATC could pull in substantially more than $106k if they got a job in the private sector.

[atmilkman]

This might be a little of track (drift) but do ridgerunners work for ATC? I tried running a search on the site but got nothing. If so, how much do they make and what all does it entail? I've never met one, but it's been a long time since I've spent any real lenght of time on the AT.

[HiKen2011]

This might be a little of track (drift) but do ridgerunners work for ATC? I tried running a search on the site but got nothing. If so, how much do they make and what all does it entail? I've never met one, but it's been a long time since I've spent any real lenght of time on the AT.

Not sure but I think they are paid thru ATC. Not sure how much they make. I know Many Sleeps, he is stationed on Springer and pretty much lives there in a tent from March-April, maybe longer. He provides info on that area.

[nehiker]

As an Executive level manager with 1.9 million in total salaries the pay rate is appropriate. What is the total budget?

It looks like the total budget is about 5 million. By this reasoning, the president of MIT (total budget over 1 billion) should be paid 20 million, and CEOs of major corporations should be paid billions.

Yeah, those salaries are low for the required experience and job duties. Given what the CEO of an average nonprofit in the DC area makes, this is peanuts.

They are not in DC, but in Appalachia where houses cost peanuts.

their revenues went up sharply so the pay is earned. my beef with them is that they are generally a advocacy group, that does some trail maintanance. Perhaps with their revenues the amount of sore spots on the trail particularly in Vermont and Maine shouldnt exist. i only notice them often from Goose Pond Cabin south. but maybe im just missing some of the work that i just didnt notice. it woud be interesting to see a map ofthe past 5 years work and the total dollars spent at each trail project.

Does ATC actually do any trail maintenance? They have crews that do some trail construction, but I think most people even on these crews are volunteers; of course, the tools and supplies are not free. Most trail construction and perhaps all trail maintenance is done by local clubs, primarily by volunteers; the paid construction crews are generally seasonal and work for peanuts (in heat and rain) without any benefits.

This might be a little of track (drift) but do ridgerunners work for ATC? I tried running a search on the site but got nothing. If so, how much do they make and what all does it entail? I've never met one, but it's been a long time since I've spent any real lenght of time on the AT.

I think a lot of them work either for local clubs (e.g. for GMC in VT) or are volunteers.

[atmilkman]

Thanks Ken and nehiker. I finally found it under Trail Management and Support under What We Do. Seems like an OK job.

[HiKen2011]

Thanks Ken and nehiker. I finally found it under Trail Management and Support under What We Do. Seems like an OK job.

Did you find the salary for the ridegrunners? Just curious how much that is.

[lemon b]

No problem here with the pay. They do a good job.

[kayak karl]

Did you find the salary for the ridegrunners? Just curious how much that is.

http://www.matc.org/Employment.htm probably same in most states.

[atmilkman]

Did you find the salary for the ridegrunners? Just curious how much that is.

Nothing about how much the pay, they just give a phone number. http://www.appalachiantrail.org/what...ers-caretakers

[atmilkman]

http://www.matc.org/Employment.htm probably same in most states.

Thanks for the link KK. 10 on and 4 off, work weekends, not bad. If I was younger and single I'd give it a go.

[Jack Tarlin]

To the original poster: I suggest you check out the salary/compensation packets of other similar environmental organizations such as the Sierra Club, Audubon Society, Nature Conservancy, etc. You will certainly discover that compared to similar organizations, the salaries/compensation of ATC employees is not only similar to these organizations but in most cases is lower, and in some cases, significantly lower.

[CrumbSnatcher]

don't know how much LP makes but it probably ain't enough!
she does a great job, & gives back to the trail more than most!
bob peoples should get a monthly check :-) and many more, good thing the trail has maintaineers.

[Rasty]

You have to look at the total management. The ATC has less total managers on a 5 million budget. How many V.P.'s etc does MIT have? The school president has many managers to share the work load. If MIT had only two managers then your theory is valid. Same reasoning applies to the company CEO.

As an Executive level manager with 1.9 million in total salaries the pay rate is appropriate. What is the total budget?

It looks like the total budget is about 5 million. By this reasoning, the president of MIT (total budget over 1 billion) should be paid 20 million, and CEOs of major corporations should be paid billions.

Yeah, those salaries are low for the required experience and job duties. Given what the CEO of an average nonprofit in the DC area makes, this is peanuts.

They are not in DC, but in Appalachia where houses cost peanuts.

their revenues went up sharply so the pay is earned. my beef with them is that they are generally a advocacy group, that does some trail maintanance. Perhaps with their revenues the amount of sore spots on the trail particularly in Vermont and Maine shouldnt exist. i only notice them often from Goose Pond Cabin south. but maybe im just missing some of the work that i just didnt notice. it woud be interesting to see a map ofthe past 5 years work and the total dollars spent at each trail project.

Does ATC actually do any trail maintenance? They have crews that do some trail construction, but I think most people even on these crews are volunteers; of course, the tools and supplies are not free. Most trail construction and perhaps all trail maintenance is done by local clubs, primarily by volunteers; the paid construction crews are generally seasonal and work for peanuts (in heat and rain) without any benefits.

This might be a little of track (drift) but do ridgerunners work for ATC? I tried running a search on the site but got nothing. If so, how much do they make and what all does it entail? I've never met one, but it's been a long time since I've spent any real lenght of time on the AT.

I think a lot of them work either for local clubs (e.g. for GMC in VT) or are volunteers.

[Sly]

bob peoples should get a monthly check :-)

He does, from the Veterans Administration. (retired)