Those are just the ticks you found...keep alert the next 3 months for symptoms.Originally Posted by Greystroke
Sorry...perhaps I'm just paranoid...be alert just in case I meant
Went hiking last weekend in Havelock, NC--Neusiok Trail. (finished the second half, btw) Ticks were HORRIBLE!! In the first several hours on the trail my granddaughter and I probably flicked off 25 or more. Then at camp we pulled of more that had made their way under our clothes, big ones. I had an especially bad case of them around my ankles. Teeny, tiny ones. We had only sprayed ourselves with Outer Banks Skeeter Beater (no Deet) which worked well repelling everything else. The next morning we used Sportsman Off 98% deet and had FAR less problem.
Since then I've developed tick bite granulomas everywhere a tick bit me. My ankles look like hell and still itch like fresh mosquito bites do. I will be using permethin on my clothes and deet on my skin from now on for sure!
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I spent about two years in Havelock and never heard of that trail. I spent quite a bit of time fishing from a kayak in that area however. I may try to get down there this fall and hike the trail. I need a good reason to go down and visit a few friends that are still in the area.
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Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.
Woo
Re Permethrin treatment: Tucking long pants into socks is extra insurance that the ticks don't get under your pants legs to feed (I hear that they like the spot behind the knees, as well as higher up).
In hotter weather, bug pants or a complete suit is cooler, though it's surprising how much heat mosquito netting holds in while you're hiking. Wearing a tee shirt under the mesh will keep the mesh from chewing up your shoulders under the shoulder straps.
As I mentioned in another thread, if you're handy with a sewing machine and have zip off pants legs, you can replicate the legs in mosquito netting if you can find a matching zipper. It should be much easier to use the bathroom if you don't have to pull down two sets of pants (and for guys, I haven't found bug pants with a fly in them yet).
As I live, declares the Lord God, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn back from his way and live. Ezekiel 33:11
Montbell makes 2.8 ounce wind pants, seems to make more sense than mosquito netting (serve other purposes). Spray those with Pemethrin, tuck them into treated gaiters, then spray socks and shoes...would be very unlikely to get a tick - in theory!
Sure, but at 59 degrees [Fahrenheit] that might work, maybe. However if it's 61+ degrees, I might pass out and die from heat exhaustion.
Seriously, pants or net suit can be unbearable in a day of normal heat.
Picked up 3 in the grass along the Housatonic, they were in my socks. My stepdaughter had 1 in her belt line, just starting to bite her, when she found it.
I was a Tick Virgin until my April hike this year.
A day after leaving the trail at the James River Footbridge, in Virginia, during my first bath at a motel, I found a tick embedded in the top of my left thigh.
EEEEK!
It hadn't fed yet (no blood in the abdomen) I pulled it out and seemed to get it all.
I've been watching for any signs complications and I did save the tick on a piece of tape (internet said it might be useful if I have complications). So far so good.
I know I could get tests to be sure, but my policy is to stay as far away from the medical complex as possible, so I'm watching.
So far so good.
Grinder
AT hiker : It's the journey, not the destination
Treated gaiters over treated NoSeeUm leggings. For cryin'-out-loud: get a damn hammock and quit sleepin' on the damn ground like a dog. Ticks are on the ground (mostly). Quit sleepin' down there wit-'em.
Don't know if anyone was playin', but if you had 51 you are a winner.
Fear ridges that are depicted as flat lines on a profile map.
Along the Cumberland Trail - Rock Creek section last week, I picked off 32 ticks in less than 2 miles of walking. In camp, I picked off 3 more that I had missed. One had embedded in my armpit. They are the worst I've seen this year. Definitely going to try the long pants tucked into socks and the permethrin stuff.
There is a certain joy in exhaustion.
Ticks started to show up around Atkins, Mile 530, you drop out of the Mts and into long grassy feilds. I was picking one to two ticks a day off my body up to mile 760 when I had to leave the trail to a medical issue. I read some where the other day that about a dozen hikers have Lymes......
Yea, I don't have any symptoms almost a year afterwards. I think taking antibiotics so soon after the onset of symptoms did the trick.
Ticks are extremely bad this year.
"Chainsaw" GA-ME 2011
The truth about ticks. Nothing works! Starting in mid-May it rains ticks from the trees. Most just land on you or crawl up your legs. They are just wandering about looking for your warm body. You can't drive them off with a chemical like flying insects. Best you can do is look for them and pick them off. Stop listening to drug company salesmnship.
A permethrin treated hat would probably help with trees raining ticks. The military recommends not treating the head band of the hat (too much exposure to the permethrin for the benefit gained). Long pants treated with permethrin would help with ticks crawling up your legs, especially if you treat the tops of your socks and tuck your pants into the socks or use treated gaiters. This would be pretty hot in the south in summer.
Are these ticks raining off trees deer ticks or dog ticks? Deer ticks carry Lyme and other ticks don't, but the other ticks carry other serious diseases.
I'm not sure I understand this? My understanding is ticks don't jump, fly, leap, float or any of that supertick behavior. They may fall (?) but I don't believe that is strategic placement on their part.
Are you saying that the whole "heat-seeking tick" thing where they leap out of trees onto living things is just a myth??
Some people take the straight and narrow. Others the road less traveled. I just cut through the woods.
What about that story that a thousand ticks will build up into a little ball on the end of a weed, ready to jump/explode out into the air if you brush up against them?
I used to work out in the woods, and would use DEET and a thorough tick check at night (with a partner), and still find 5 to 8 of them burrowed in. I do think you're safe if you get them off before too many hours have passed, but I don't know how you can check for them completely without a good light and an intimate partner helping you out (especially since they go for where my bra strap crosses my back). I'm going to add permethrin to my arsenal after reading this.
As for removing them, there are a lot of fun ways to play with a tick that has latched onto your skin (matches, duct tape, cotton balls with soap, etc.), but that's all for if you want to have fun with the critters while extending the length of time of your exposure to them. I prefer the CDC method (though I do soak the area with rubbing alcohol before AND after pulling it out with tweezers).
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