Gear Shake Down Please - Beginning Thru Hike on 3/10

[robertblake60]

As of January 1st, this is my current gear list. It weighs 34.0 lbs total, with 27.1 lbs in my backpack (including food/water) and a "base weight (no food/water) of 17.1 lbs.


I'm doing a 'no-cook' hike, which, as you know, means all the food I eat would not require cooking. So things like tortillas, peanut butter, trail mix, candy bars, dry cereal, protein powder, etc. This is why you don't see a stove or pots/pans.


Please destroy me on this, let me know what I'm missing or probably don't need. Thanks so much everyone.





Pack/Shelter/Sleep Total Weight of 11.84 lbs or 189.5 oz
Sleeping Bag - REI Polar Pod +25 (3.69 lbs or 59 oz)
Tent + footprint - REI Quarter Dome T1 (3.2 lbs or 51.5 oz)
Backpack - REI Flash 62 (3 lbs or 48 oz)
Ultra-Sil Pack Cover (.23 lbs or 3.8 oz)
Stuff Sack (pillow) (.11 lbs or 1.8 oz)
Therm-a-rest NeoAir All Season Sleeping Pad (1.19 lbs or 19 oz) (added based on feedback)
Cocoon RipStop Silk MummyLiner (.29 lbs or 4.7 oz) (forgot to include before)

Water Treatment Total Weight of 0.44 lbs or 7 oz
Empty Gatorade Bottles (x2) (.26 lbs or 4 oz)
Aqua Mira Water Purifer drops (.19 lbs or 3 oz)

Daily Hiking Clothes Total Weight of 4.15 lbs or 66.4 oz
Keen Voyager Size 12 Boots (2.13 lbs or 34 oz)
REI Sahara Convertible Pants (.91 lbs or 14.5 oz)
Athletic t-shirt (.31 lbs or 5 oz)
Under Armour Compression Shorts (.22 lbs or 3.5 oz)
REI Merino Wool Socks (.20 lbs or 3.3 oz)
Brim Hat (.19 lbs or 3 oz)
Watch (.09 lbs or 1.5 oz)
Bandana (.05 lbs or .8 oz)
Wedding Ring (.02 lbs or .3 oz)

Cold Clothes used in March/April Total Weight of 1.84 lbs or 29.5 oz
REI Rauk Fleece Jacket (1.22 lbs or 19.5 oz)
Under Armour Long Underwear (.41 lbs or 6.5 oz)
Beanie (0.13 lbs or 2 oz)
Glove Liners (.09 lbs or 1.5 oz)

Packed/Camp Clothes Total Weight of 2.19 lbs or 35.3 oz
Ultra-Sil Drysack (.11 lbs or 1.8 oz)
Columbia Convertible Pants (.72 lbs or 11.5 oz)
Athletic t-shirt (.31 lbs or 5 oz)
REI Merino Wool Socks (2 pairs) (.40 lbs or 6.6 oz)
DriDucks Trail Pac Rain Suit (.65 lbs or 10.4 oz) (added based on feedback)

Toiletries Total Weight of 0.31 lbs or 5 oz
Chapstick (.02 lbs or .3 oz)
Toothpaste, Brush, Floss (.09 lbs or 1.5 oz)
Toilet Paper (.25 roll) (.04 lbs or .7 oz) (reduced based on feedback)
Nail Clippers (.03 lbs or .5 oz)
Dr. Bronner Soap (.13 lbs or 2 oz) (added based on feedback)

Carried Items Total Weight of 0.84 lbs or 13.5 oz
Hiking Pole wrapped with 50' Cord & duct tape (.78 lbs or 12.5 oz)
ID, Credit Cards, Cash (0.13 lbs or 1 oz) (reduced based on feedback)

Equipment Total Weight of 0.61 lbs or 9.8 oz
Bic Mini Lighter (.03 lbs or .4 oz) (added based on feedback)
Whistle (.02 lbs or .3 oz)
First Aid Kit (.19 lbs or 3 oz) (reduced based on feedback)
Maps (.19 lbs or 3 oz) (reduced based on feedback)
Journal (.25 lbs or 2 oz) (reduced based on feedback)
Bandana (.05 lbs or .8 oz)

Electronics Total Weight of 1.67 lbs or 26.8 oz
Goal Zero 10 Plus USB Battery Pack (.42 lbs or 6.8 oz)
iPhone 4s (.33 lbs or 5.3 oz) and charger cable (.17 lbs or 2.8 oz)
SPOT 2 GPS Personal Locating Beacon (.31 lbs or 5.0 oz)
Nook Simple Touch w/ Glow Light (.44 lbs or 7.0 oz)

Nourishment Total Weight of 10 lbs or 160 oz
4 days food (8 lbs or 128 oz)
32 oz water (2 lbs or 32 oz) (reduced based on feedback)


Stuff Shipped/Bought Later
Insect Repellant (.13 lbs or 2 oz)
Bug Net (.05 lbs or .8 oz)




Stuff Removed Based on Feedback
Spare AAA (x4) and AA (x4) Batteries (.44 lbs or 7.0 oz)
Leatherman Skeletool (.31 lbs or 5 oz)
32 oz water (2 lbs or 32 oz)
U-Dig-It Steel Poo Shovel (.34 lbs or 5.5 oz)
Headlamp (.19 lbs or 3 oz)
Under Armour Compression Shorts (.22 lbs or 3.5 oz)


I had to add several key items (sleeping pad, rain gear) and with the weight savings my pack is still almost 2lbs lighter. I will strongly consider the other ideas given.

[Hosaphone]

First off, ditch a liter of water. -2 pounds and looking better already!

Are you sure about this "no cook" thing? It works great for some people, I guess, but I tried it once and I discovered I like having warm food. Your mileage may vary though, of course.

Your tent / bag / pack are all too heavy (generally want to aim for ~2 pounds for each of them), but would cost $$$ to replace and they aren't THAT bad. There is low hanging fruit elsewhere.

Glove Liners (.09 lbs or 1.5 oz)

Depending on your body and when you start, you might want more serious insulation/protection on your hands. Maybe I'm just a wuss, though.

U-Dig-It Steel Poo Shovel (.34 lbs or 5.5 oz)

That's a heavy freaking shovel. Lots of privies if you're starting in the South, can always use a trekking pole, or if you really want a trowel I'm sure those orange ones are cheap and lighter. QiWiz also makes a fancy titanium one that tips the scales at ~.5oz for $30.

Leatherman Skeletool (.31 lbs or 5 oz)

Too dang heavy. Prefer tiny leatherman style (blade/scissors/tweezers/file). Do you really need pliers, a bottle opener, etc?

If you miss having a real blade, there are good fixed blade options you could add to a tiny multitool. A #2/0 Mora costs $10, has a 3" full tang blade that puts the Skeletool to shame, and weighs in at less than 2oz including the sheathe.

First Aid Kit (.38 lbs or 6 oz)

Probably too heavy. Contents?

Maps (.50 lbs or 8 oz)
Journal (.63 lbs or 10 oz)

I think people generally recommend ditching maps for the AT, and carrying pages of the guidebook instead. You certainly don't need to bring half a pound of maps... Similarly 10oz is a lot of paper for journaling. Why not carry only as much as you need - ie a few sheets of paper at a time?

Goal Zero 10 Plus USB Battery Pack (.42 lbs or 6.8 oz)
iPhone 4s (.33 lbs or 5.3 oz) and charger cable (.17 lbs or 2.8 oz)
SPOT 2 GPS Personal Locating Beacon (.31 lbs or 5.0 oz)
Nook Simple Touch w/ Glow Light (.44 lbs or 7.0 oz)
Spare AAA (x4) and AA (x4) Batteries (.44 lbs or 7.0 oz)

That's a lot of electronics.

I assume the SPOT is for peace of mind for someone back home and ditching it is not an option?
Do you really need the Nook AND iPhone, AND backup batteries for both?

[ChinMusic]

Did I miss the sleeping pad?

[10-K]

No need to put your boots on there. Take them off and you're at a respectable 33 lbs with 4 days worth of food and a half gallon of water.

Having said that there are over a dozen ways you could shave some weight but the best way to figure it out is to get out there hiking and get some experience.

[robertblake60]

First off, ditch a liter of water. -2 pounds and looking better already!

NICE!

Are you sure about this "no cook" thing? It works great for some people, I guess, but I tried it once and I discovered I like having warm food. Your mileage may vary though, of course.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I pretty much live off of clif bars and trail mix now. I'm hoping the restocking trips to town will give me my fill of warm food. I'll have a stove ready to go in a box at home for my wife to send just in case though.

Your tent / bag / pack are all too heavy (generally want to aim for ~2 pounds for each of them), but would cost $$$ to replace and they aren't THAT bad. There is low hanging fruit elsewhere.

Yeah, I know...but like you said, I already have them and they're not TOO bad.

Depending on your body and when you start, you might want more serious insulation/protection on your hands. Maybe I'm just a wuss, though.

Good suggestion; I'll add some mittens to the list.

That's a heavy freaking shovel. Lots of privies if you're starting in the South, can always use a trekking pole, or if you really want a trowel I'm sure those orange ones are cheap and lighter. QiWiz also makes a fancy titanium one that tips the scales at ~.5oz for $30.

Nice, I'll reach out to him.

Too dang heavy. Prefer tiny leatherman style (blade/scissors/tweezers/file). Do you really need pliers, a bottle opener, etc?

If you miss having a real blade, there are good fixed blade options you could add to a tiny multitool. A #2/0 Mora costs $10, has a 3" full tang blade that puts the Skeletool to shame, and weighs in at less than 2oz including the sheathe.

Good idea too; thanks.

I think people generally recommend ditching maps for the AT, and carrying pages of the guidebook instead. You certainly don't need to bring half a pound of maps... Similarly 10oz is a lot of paper for journaling. Why not carry only as much as you need - ie a few sheets of paper at a time?

Yeah, I've been reading those suggestions about the guidebook. I ordered one, just hasn't arrived yet. I'll likely chop it into 4ths. I need to reweigh my paper; I just plugged a number in.

That's a lot of electronics.

I assume the SPOT is for peace of mind for someone back home and ditching it is not an option?
Do you really need the Nook AND iPhone, AND backup batteries for both?

Yeah, can't ditch the SPOT.
The nook has a 2 month battery life and will charge off the Goal Zero. The iPhone stinks to read on and will mostly be used as my camera and of course link back to family when in towns.


Lots of great suggestions though, I'll incorporate!

[MuddyWaters]

Journal on your Iphone and leave the 10oz journal. Or take a few sheets of paper at a time, and put in a bounce box. 10oz is heavy.
I wouldnt bring the Nook personally either.
8oz of maps is ridiculous. Take only what you need, bounce the rest forward.
Your first aid should be more minimal, 2-3 oz, not 6 oz.
You wont need the leatherman either.
You wont need the poo shovel. You can get a Ti one for 1oz if needed
Bic mini lighter is 0.4 oz
Keep ID, health ins card, 1 credit card, and cash to min, about 1oz
Only critical spare battery will be for headlamp, 2oz. Forget the rest, renew in towns
You wont need a whole roll of TP (I hope not) at a time. It gets wet, etc. A few sheets in a ziplock will last between towns. Run out isnt that bad.
Consider soap for hands?
get 0.9oz beanie (zpacks)
You might want puffy jacket in March.
Leave the wedding ring at home, unless it just means that much to you. It could get lost. Your fingers may get thinner and not stay on. It could be a reason for someone to rob you in town.
No sleep pad? Really?
Shelter/sleep could be much lighter
Gatorade bottles are more like 2oz EACH
Choose the lightest camp clothes you can. You can do better. Dont need the second pair of compression shorts.

[robertblake60]

Did I miss the sleeping pad?

No, you didn't miss it; there's not one listed. I've never used one before and really don't know if I need one. I'll do some browsing on this board to find thoughts on that.

[Hosaphone]

Nice, I'll reach out to him.

http://www.qiwiz.net/trowels.html

Actually two versions... One is .4oz and $29, one is .6oz and $36 including shipping. Not too bad if you feel like you must carry one.

[ChinMusic]

No, you didn't miss it; there's not one listed. I've never used one before and really don't know if I need one. I'll do some browsing on this board to find thoughts on that.

You may not need a pad for comfort but you WILL need one for warmth

[Malto]

Two suggestions.

1) take a pad. You will likely need it for warmth and a good nights sleep will do you good.
2) I would not do a high protein diet. You will end up burning the protein for fuel and that is not nearly as efficient as carbs for hiking.

[Don H]

Your including your wedding ring?
Here's my thoughts on how to save over 6 pounds:

You should be able to get a tent for under 2 lbs (SMD Lunar Solo 23 oz) and a sleeping bag for under 2 1/2.
U-Dig-It Steel Poo Shovel (.34 lbs or 5.5 oz) ditch this, use a sticl to dig a cat hole or use the privy.
Bug Net (.05 lbs or .8 oz)
Insect Repellant (.13 lbs or 2 oz) You wont need a bug net or bug spray for 3 or 4 months.
U-Dig-It Steel Poo Shovel (.34 lbs or 5.5 oz) ditch it
Leatherman Skeletool (.31 lbs or 5 oz) replace with a 1 oz swiss classic
First Aid Kit (.38 lbs or 6 oz) cut down by 50%. 12 bandaids, neosporin, safety pin, 5' of Leukotape
Maps (.50 lbs or 8 oz) exchange for the AT Guide, carry only a months worth at a time, 2 oz.
Journal (.63 lbs or 10 oz) exchange for small note pad and pencil 3 oz. maybe

Goal Zero 10 Plus USB Battery Pack (.42 lbs or 6.8 oz) Keep your phone off except when you need it, recharge in town.
iPhone 4s (.33 lbs or 5.3 oz) and charger cable (.17 lbs or 2.8 oz)
SPOT 2 GPS Personal Locating Beacon (.31 lbs or 5.0 oz) you'll be able to text home almost every day, do you need this?
Nook Simple Touch w/ Glow Light (.44 lbs or 7.0 oz) you have a headlamp, do you need this?
Spare AAA (x4) and AA (x4) Batteries (.44 lbs or 7.0 Buy batteries in town.

I think you will find that the more stuff you have the more trouble it is to deal with packing, unpacking loosing, breaking etc.You will need a sleeping pad
You don't need camp clothes. You will either be hiking or sleeping. You will need something to wear while you're washing your only set of clothes. Many just wear their rain gear.Keep it simple, keep it light.
Hope this helps, have fun!

[Hosaphone]

No, you didn't miss it; there's not one listed. I've never used one before and really don't know if I need one. I'll do some browsing on this board to find thoughts on that.

Short answer: It depends.

Easy answer: Yes, you need one.

Long answer: http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/show...ad-a-necessity

Recommend at least picking a closed cell foam pad like a Ridgerest. Can find them for $20ish. I cut mine to only cover my shoulders and hips and it weighed ~6oz. If you go this route, you will really want to find soft places to set up camp and avoid shelter floors.

[leaftye]

You can use your camp socks as mittens.

I'd ditch the Nook. Except in the long hours of winter, I'm way too tired to stay up to read at the end of the hiking day. Usually I can only stay awake long enough to go over the maps and guide book pages for the next day. If you find that you're awake at night with nothing to do, then have it shipped out to you.

There's way too much electronics in general. I would drop the Goal Zero charger, but if you absolutely must keep it, use the flashlight built into it instead of your headlamp. At worst, you run out of lighting until you get to the next town, but you should be sleeping when it's dark anyway. You could use a coin light to get around camp and dig into your pack at night. I used one for a month last winter and I only stopped using it because I lost it. That gets rid of all the spare batteries too. Your iPhone should be able to make it from town to town without a problem if you're only turning it on to take pictures and do a little texting.

If the SPOT is to check in, what about checking in by text occasionally instead? You can even have pre-typed texts ready to go so that you have to do little more than turn on your cell phone for a couple minutes when you think you'll have a signal.

I also agree that you have too much paper, and I'd certainly hope that weight includes your writing instrument.

Polyester shirts get very stinky very quickly.

No matter what meal plan you use, I highly recommend trying it in thru hiker quantities for a day or two before your thru hike. What you find palatable in normal quantities may turn your stomach in large quantities. Excessive hunger will sour your mood. I've seen hungry hikers decide to leave the trail for almost no reason, and it was probably hunger that spoiled their experience.

I don't see soap or hand sanitizer on that list.

I wouldn't worry about the water or boot weight. It's just moving around numbers, but doesn't change anything.

The other folks have already covered a lot of what I would have said.







Is this a list of gear that you already have? I'd hate to make suggestions for alternatives if you've already spent the money.

[MuddyWaters]

You will also need rain pants in March/April , and again up north. You can do without them in Summer.
Its easy to use the iphone for a camera. Except that having to turn it on and wait to take pics is a pain.

[robertblake60]

Ok, I'm convinced. Thanks.

[Drybones]

I agree with others about the water, cut that in half, 24 oz was the most I carried.
I'd shoot for a 2 lb or so sleeping bag.
The Quarter Dome is little heavy and you need to be careful with poles, I have one and have repaired the poles twice. The Tarptent I used was 26 oz.
You dont need the maps but you do need the guide book.
You wont need the Leatherman but I would take a knife that's under 2 oz.
You dont need the shovel, use your heel or find a stick.
You're carrying a lot of electronics, I'll bet most you'll send home after a few weeks. I wouldn't carry 5 oz of batteries, you can pick those up at any re-supply.

Have a great hike!

[robertblake60]

Ok, I'll get a sleeping pad.
I've ditched the shovel, leatherman, headlamp (will use Goal Zero's light), and spare batteries.
I'll adjust my journal paper, toilet paper, and trail guide to carry as little as needed. I'll adjust my first aid kit.
I'll get the bug stuff shipped to me later in the hike. I've seen the other suggestions too and will adjust.

I just spent some time looking at tents and sleeping bags to replace what I have; not sure that's in the budget.I already own the these items.

Regarding the nook...I'm just a huge reader; love it. I'll start with it and see how much I actually use it or if it becomes a problem.


Thanks so much guys!

[Hosaphone]

Sounds like you're in good shape... Just get out and do as much hiking as you can in the next 2 months, and the colder/rainier the better!

[Don H]

The good thing about hiking the AT is that you're never more than a few days from a town. You can make adjustments or changes as you go.
Good luck and have fun.

[q-tip]

I included fuel (7 oz.) and meds (6 oz.) to these totals. I hope this helps. Charlie Base Gear List-7
Big Three:	Base Kit	Cold Base Kit	UL Kit	$ Cost
Granite Gear Crown 60	35.50	35.50	35.50	$200
o Cuben Pack Cover-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$55
· TT Contrail (Wild Oasis Tarp)	32.00	32.00	15.50	$200
o Ground Cloth-Z-Packs Cuben Floor	1.70	1.70	3.20	$8
o Stakes (10)-	4.00	4.00	4.00	$35
o Stuff Sack-	0.70	0.70	0.70	$20
Terra Rosa Bag Cover (Sack)	0.00	0.00	6.50	$55
· WM Alpinlite 15D (Kodiak 0D Tamarak 35d)	34.30	57.00	19.00	$465
o Stuff Sacks	2.00	2.00	2.00	$0
· Thermarest Neo Air	14.00	14.00	14.00	$130
Pad Stuff Sack	0.70	0.70	0.70	$0
Total:	125.90	148.60	102.10	$1,168
	7.87	9.29	6.38
Clothing (Carried)
· MB Wind Pants-	3.10	3.10	3.10	$90
· Marmot Mica Jacket-	7.00	7.00	7.00	$140
· Marmot Dri-Climb Vest	0.00	6.20	0.00	$100
· Mont Bell Down Camp Jacket-	6.60	6.60	6.60	$160
· Silk Lite Weight Sleep Shirt-	2.80	2.80	2.80	$24
· Silk LiteWeight Sleep Leggings-	0.00	0.00	3.20	$24
· Sleep Socks (1)-Wool	2.60	2.60	2.60	$4
· Hiking Socks (X-tra-1)-	2.60	2.60	2.60	$5
· Sock Liners (X-tra-1)-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$5
· Nike Hiking Leggings-	4.70	4.70	0.00	$50
· Fleece Hat (1)-	2.00	2.00	0.00	$10
· Running Gloves	1.00	1.00	0.00	$30
Camp Gloves	0.00	1.00	0.00	$5
· Garbage Bag Rain Shirt-	0.00	1.50	0.00	$0
· Stuff Sack-	0.80	0.80	0.80	$25
· Glasses	3.00	2.00	2.00	$40
· Dirty Girl Gaiters	1.20	1.20	1.20	$20
· Pillow Cover	1.70	1.70	1.70	$25
Balaclava	0.00	2.00	0.00	$10
Bandana	1.00	1.00	1.00	$3
MLD Mitten Covers	0.00	1.20	0.00	$4
Camp Shoes	9.00	9.00	0.00	$15
· Mesh Camp Shoes	0.00	0.00	4.00	$10
Total:	50.10	61.00	39.60	$799
	3.13	3.81	2.48
Hygiene/Medical/Emergency/Stuff
· Tooth Brush-Toothpaste	2.00	2.00	2.00	$3
· First Aid Kit-	1.20	1.20	1.20	$10
o Medical Tape-	-	-	-
o Gauze-1 Roll-	-	-	-
o 3 Band Aids-	-	-	-
o 3 Alcohol Wipes-	-	-	-
o Tweezer-
· Toilet Paper-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$1
· Hand Sanitizer-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$1
· Vitamin I-	0.00	0.00	0.00	$10
· Medications-	6.00	6.00	6.00
· Sun Screen-	0.00	0.00	0.00	$2
· Lip Balm-	0.00	0.00	0.00	$1
· Duct Tape-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$4
· Emergency Kit-	2.00	2.00	2.00	$8
o Needle-Thread-	-	-	-
o Safety Pins (4)-	-	-	-
o Tent-Pad Repair Kit-	-	-	-
Bladder Parts
· Bic Lighter (1)-	0.40	0.40	0.40	$1
· Waterproof Matches (1 Box)-	0.30	0.30	0.30	$3
· Spare Batteries-	0.00	0.00	0.00	$5
· Pen-Paper-	0.50	0.50	0.50	$0
· Head Lamp-	3.00	3.00	3.00	$40
· Trail Maps-	0.00	0.00	0.00	$25
· Deet-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$3
· Extra Plastic Bags-	1.00	1.00	1.00	$0
Food Bags
Garbage Bag-Grocery Bags
Stuff Sack	1.40	1.40	1.40	$25
Total:	21.80	21.80	21.80	$142
	1.36	1.36	1.36
Cook System:
· Soto Stove + Windscreen	3.30	3.30	3.30	$65
Windscreen-Alcohol	0.00	0.00	0.00
· Stuff Sack (Stove)-	0.80	0.80	0.80	$0
· Fuel (4 oz)-	7.00	7.00	7.00	$4
· Oil Camp XLS Cook Pot-	7.90	7.90	7.90	$26
Pot Cozy	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
· Spoon- (2)	1.50	1.50	1.50	$5
· Stuff Sack (Food)-	1.60	1.60	1.60	$25
· Bear Rope-	2.50	2.50	2.50	$0
· Towel-	0.50	0.50	0.50	$5
· Pot Stabilizer	1.00	1.00	1.00	$8
Bear Vault
Total:	26.10	26.10	26.10	$138
	1.63	1.63	1.63
Water Treatment:
· Steri Pen w/ Batteries-Case-	4.60	4.60	4.60	$125
Spare Batteries	1.00	1.00	1.00	$10
· Aqamira Tabs	0.50	0.50	0.50	$6
· Nalgene UL Water Bottle (1)-	3.00	3.00	3.00	$6
Nalgene Soft Bottle	2.00	2.00	2.00	$8
· MSR Bladder (80 oz)-	6.20	6.20	6.20	$25
Total:	17.30	17.30	17.30	$180
	1.08	1.08	1.08
Wearing:
· Ex Officio Long Sleeve Shirt-	7.10	7.10	7.10	$30
· Running Shorts-	3.20	3.20	3.20	$25
· Hiking Socks-	2.50	2.50	2.50	$4
· Sock Liners-	0.90	0.90	0.90	$3
· Hiking Poles-Leki-	19.40	19.40	19.40	$125
· Montrail AT + Train Runners	26.60	26.60	26.60	$75
Olympus Tough TG-320	5.50	5.50	5.50	$150
· Knife/Whistle/Compass-	1.40	1.40	1.40	$35
· Heart Rate Monitor-	3.20	3.20	3.20	$200
· Knee Brace	6.00	6.00	6.00	$30
Ankle Brace	8.00	8.00	8.00	$90
· Running Hat-	2.00	2.00	2.00	$20
Total:	85.80	85.80	85.80	$787
	5.36	5.36	5.36
Electronics:
· MP3/Headphones/Charger-	3.00	3.00	3.00	$85
· Cell Phone/Charger	4.30	4.30	4.30	$60
Camera Charger + Spare Battery	2.30	2.30	2.30	$20
Total:	9.60	9.60	9.60	$165
	0.60	0.60	0.60
Other:
· Ditty Bag-	1.20	1.20	1.20	$12
o Credit Cards (2)-	1.00	1.00	1.00
o Cash-	-	-	-
o Drivers License-	-	-	-
o Insurance Card-	-	-	-
o Phone Card-	-	-	-	$25
o Extra Reading Glasses (1)-	0.70	0.70	0.70	$10
o Emergency Numbers-	0.00	0.00	0.00	$0
Total:	2.90	2.90	2.90	$47
	0.18	0.18	0.18
Total Cost:				$3,426
Food-Water Water Carried- 33.00 33.00 33.00 Food-4 Days-2.0 Lbs/Day (32 OZ.) 128.00 128.00 128.00 Totals: 161.00 161.00 161.00 10.06 10.06 10.06 Grand Totals: Base Weight In Pack: 253.70 287.30 219.40 15.86 17.96 13.71 Weight Worn: 85.80 85.80 85.80 5.36 5.36 5.36 Skin-Out Base Weight: 338.20 391.06 318.91 21.14 24.44 19.93 Weight Pack+Food+Water 414.70 448.30 380.40 25.92 28.02 23.78 Total Skin Out Weight: 500.50 534.10 466.20 31.28 33.38 29.14