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    Sorry, but i have to post my thoughts, and apologize to everyone who might take offense. Just my take on the situation generally speaking and not my intention to play the expert, talking down to the less experienced hikers, as a lot of folks seem to do. Nothing beats learning by doing, and everyone is different.

    I see a lot of posts suggesting only carrying a portion of your guide book, and bouncing the remainder, leaving the used portion in a drop box. To me this is insane. It only weighs a few ounces and if you leave it intact, it can serve as an invaluable source of reference when you get back home, showing you where you were on such and such a date, etc. Besides, who wants to bother with the hassle of having to be a certain place at a certain time anyway? Makes about as much sense as cutting your toothbrush in half to save gram or two.

    Another "gripe" I have is posts from the "purists" who scorn cell phones. A smart phone ( iPhone ) with service from Verizon, for example, using a Mi-Fi Jetpack is an invaluable tool useful for not only the obvious but with enough storage, you can take advantage of the camera, front and back, and keep a daily journal with only a few clicks, documenting yourself visually every day. Anywhere you can get a signal, you have Internet. How can that be a bad thing? A digital camera is also another "must have", but this is just my opinion of course

    As for "gaiters", I prefer the short ones because the poplar knee high type used with shorts only makes your legs sweat. All you really need to keep covered is your shoe or boot, not your entire leg from the knee down. They really do add a certain amount of protection from getting wet and they do keep out the sticks and stones, but it's personal preference, just like hiking poles. Some do, some don't. All you really need is long pants, especially when you are walking through dense overgrowth where ticks are a major problem. That's how they get on you, by brushing up against where they live. The last thing you want to deal with is Lyme's Disease.

    Another misconception is the use of a hammock. For those who don't already know, they are extremely comfortable, and you don't lie in them looking like a banana. The proper HH is designed to allow you to rest almost totally flat, corner to corner in a trapezoid configuration, bug free, and off the cold and wet ground, with a built in swing seat when you are fixing your lunch. Yes, you are more exposed to the elements, but with a tarp, that problem is eliminated. You will also experience the outside temperatures more readily in the colder climates than in a tent, but with a down sleeping bag and a 3/4 pad, that problem is also eliminated. The huge benefit comes in the warmer months, without worry of fighting the bugs because you are enclosed with a mesh netting. I was once a non-believer myself, but for me, it's the only way to go, and set up/take down is about a minute. If you are on a bald or in the open, just use your tarp and hiking poles to set up a shelter. No problem.

    I do think the proper research is necessary but, simply put, here's all you need to think about. Plan for 4 -5 days at a time, not a month or so. Remember every day of food is about 2 lbs. per day. Keep your feet as dry as possible because if you don't, that's how you will get your blisters. Wearing a liner sock will help out a lot. Wear a boot or shoe at least one size larger than your normal shoe size, because you need room for your socks, and your feet will definitely swell when you hike. Change your socks daily, rinsing out the ones you used during the day and drying overnight, by sleeping with them. Stay hydrated, and always, always filter your water. I don't care what others claim about the quality of the water on most parts of the trail, filter it.

    Make your hike your hike, not someone else's. Do take time to enjoy what you are doing and where you are. Shelters are shelters, but they are infested with mice, and people who like to party, hikers as well as locals. If that's what you enjoy, go for it, but I prefer the solitude and comfort of a good night's sleep without being crammed in with a bunch of strangers who add their charm (noise) throughout the night. A lot of times, first in is first out, because they race to the next shelter to claim their spot before it fills up later in the day. I've been kept out of a shelter because of limited space in the middle of a rain storm more than once because of this attitude. Not a problem, but setting up in rain isn't my first choice.

    Groups have their advantage, and if you are by yourself and approached by a stranger, always let them think you are with a group, even though you are spread out. Just common sense, not paranoia.

    The most important thing is, and I know you have heard it time and time gain, but it is weight. That doesn't mean a few luxury items don't warrant consideration. For me it's a pair of Croc's for camp shoes. You want to give your feet a break at the end of the day, but you don't want to step on a thorn on the way to the spring. They come in handy for stream crossings also. Another thing I enjoy is an extra bandana or two. I also keep a small Nalgene bottle clipped to my breast strap for instant gratification without having to struggle to find my large bottle. Yes, you have those folks who claim a throw a way is better and lighter, but a Nalgene is bombproof, and fits my water filter. Yes, I also carry my iPhone, a digital camera that uses AA batteries, and a Pezel head lamp if I am running late and have to set up in the dark.

    I hope anything I have offered or suggested is of some use to anyone who reads this post, but it's just a hike. Don't over think it. Thanks.

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    after all, it's just walkin'

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    I think 10 paragraphs is over thinking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    after all, it's just walkin'
    Love it... he agrees with you!!

    Thanks for the thoughtful post, goedde2 I'm sure it will be helpful!

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    Awful long post on your way, telling people not to over think it and to do it their way?

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    I like the way this guy thinks. I'd be happy to share the trail with you, good sir. And if anybody is offended by what he is saying, the constitution allows you to bail at any sentence in.........

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    Nicely put, and I agree especially on the smart-phone thing... my 8.9 oz droid is my camera, phone, GPS (emergency navigation), occasional internet link (for banking, investments, travel arrangements, etc) and perhaps most important of all, the droid is an excellent E-book reader. I know from experience that I will be reading a lot of books on my AT thru. Many say that they don't read much, but I certainly will. the 8.9 oz includes two extra batteries and tiny little wall charger for in town. Sweet combination of a lot of things in one small package.

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    Common Sense Rocks!
    But hey, It's their hike, they can carry or not carry what they like. I prefer a Nalgene (it fits my filter too). I just bought a hammock, but I also love my tent. It all depends on what kind of hike I'm planning as to what I take. Only have one hiking pole at the moment. And I love my iphone, just wish the battery lasted longer. Hate having to carry a camera as a backup.

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    oh, and about the book. Dude you bought it; if you wanna rip it in three easy to handle sizes, whatever. I like to have mine intact tho.

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    Well thought out, intelligent statement. Enjoyed reading. Thank you. For those busting on you for stating it was too long. Think about it; they took the time to read it & reply. Whats that say about them? Hmmmmm. G'Day Mate

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    Great advice!! All in all carry what you want, make it your hike. After reading all the post and research most hikers get the picture, lighter is better, use what brands you want. Enjoyed reading this, thank you. Baby Face Nelson

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    Is there a Cliff Note version of this post, I might read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fins1838 View Post
    For those busting on you for stating it was too long. Think about it; they took the time to read it & reply.
    Nope, just counted the paragraphs. I'm way too busy making pointless posts to actually read a 10 page diatribe on HMHDI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadeye View Post
    Nope, just counted the paragraphs. I'm way too busy making pointless posts to actually read a 10 page diatribe on HMHDI.
    I'm with this guy. For a post title talking about not over thinking hiking, that sure was a lot of opinion on how someone should or should not hike. Not that I mind, I sure as **** like to over think most things I do - its just in my nature. I just found it amusing that there were several paragraphs on 'don't over think it.'

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    I was on the fence about going with a hammock or tent set-up, goedde2's section on hammocks however has swayed my decision to the way of the hammock! What type of hammock are u rockin' goedde2?

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    Btw I didn't know their were guidelines for posts?

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    I have to admit I haven't read all of this thread - I'm trying not to overthink about stuff....

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    Hey Jake, thanks for your reply. I have a Hennessy Light with a slight modification. The original model comes with an entrance in the bottom. You separate the sides, enter, sit down, lift your legs, and the opening snaps shut with velcro. The built in netting keeps you bug free. I voided the warranty by having the netting connected by a full length zipper. MUCH easier to get in and out of with your pad and other gear inside. Also, you can just collapse the hammock, and use it for a seat while resting at your camp sight. I would strongly suggest the larger 6 - point optional tarp, instead of the 4 - point that comes standard because it offers much better rain protection. These days HH finally does offer their hammock with a zipper version, but it is a bit heavier, with no bottom entrance. You might also consider what is known as "snake skins", which are long tubular sections of nylon that you keep on the hammock ropes tied to the tree, and when you are ready to break camp, you just slide them down onto the hammock and form a long rope like package that you can just coil up and attach to your pack. Takes about a minute to set up or take down. Sorry for the "long" post like my original that a lot of folks are complaining about but they managed to find the time to bitch rather than add anything constructive or helpful. Go figure.

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    [QUOTE=Jake Jensen;1386700]
    I was on the fence about going with a hammock or tent set-up, goedde2's section on hammocks however has swayed my decision to the way of the hammock! What type of hammock are u rockin' goedde2?


    Sorry Jake, I mistakenly just "replied" without including your question about the gear. Just scroll down to read. Thanks.

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