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    Rest of the kitchen? (Windscreen, pot, cup, spork, cozy, lighter, ...) ?

    Water treatment and water containers?

    Bearbag and line?

    Spare socks? Also, are you counting your baselayer, hat and gloves among 'clothing worn?' Spring and fall, I may want that stuff to sleep in, even if they're too hot to hike in.

    First-aid kit?

    Gas-fired stove? (Do you mean propane/isobutane?) Unless you're melting snow, or going for more than a week between resupplies, a naphtha-fired stove and 12 oz of fuel is overkill. I carry a 1-oz alcohol stove, a 1.5-oz pot stand, and 2 fl oz of S-L-X per day, usually. That's nearly a pound lighter than your kit, and it's enough for me to have hot cereal and coffee in the morning, and a hot meal at night.

    Your pack's a little on the heavy side, but if it carries well, that's what's important. Your sleeping bag is also heavier than mine (in three seasons). Your tent is lighter than mine, but that's because I have a 2-person tent. For quite a while, I was accustomed to sharing weight with my daughter. Now that she's away at school, a lightweight 1-person tent is something that I see in my future.

    And always allow a pound for "mind your own business" when posting a gear list.
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    I'm getting ready to head to Springer. My pack base was 14.5 pounds with all the basics. Then I started adding all the little odds and ends which are nice to have and now it looks like I'll top out at just over 16.

    It's amazing how much all that little crap adds up. Do I need all of it? Probably not, but it's not going to break my back and will make life more pleasent. The Kindle Fire is the bulk of the extra weight. Mostly for its wi-fi capability, since I don't do smart phones.

    Oh well, I got until tomorrow night to decide what comes with me
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    I am planning a section hike starting at Spivey Gap and heading north for as far as my legs will take me in 5 days in June. I have not had a pack on my back in 36 years. Bought a new pack and a few other new items (nothing too expensive or extravagant), my first weigh-in was 11 pounds for my base weight and 24 pounds with food.

    So I tossed out my sleeping bag and went with a fleece bag with some DIY beefing up, tossed out my lunches (the heaviest item of my food) and decided to go with wraps and spam/peppironi/etc.. Tossed out my morning hot chocolate for coffee singles. Tossed out the Pop Tarts (That hurt). Cut my FAK in half.

    I will weigh-in on Monday at work to see how much weight I have taken out. I am shooting for a fully loaded weight of 18 pounds or less, minus H2O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barberino View Post
    This is my list of base weight material. I haven't gotten my shorts yet and there are a few miscellaneous items not yet included such as maps, matches, but spray etc., but the remaining items shouldn't add up to more than a pound. My total is about 20lbs.

    Item Lb. Oz. Total
    Z rest 15.7 0.98125
    Sleeping Bag 3 8 3.5
    Tent 2 11 2.6875
    Steaks
    Ground Tarp
    Columbia Rain Jacket 1 1
    Frog Togs Rain Pants 11.1 0.69375
    Galyans Pack Cover 7.8 0.4875
    Down Jacket 1 5 1.3125
    Champion Shirt 5.1 0.31875
    Button up shirt 5.1 0.31875
    Flashlight 1.6 0.1
    Leatherman 4.6 0.2875
    Stove 14.5 0.90625
    Gas 12 0.75
    Pack 5 11 5.6875
    Total 19.03125
    I'm no ultra light hiker by any stretch but I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone whose bag weighs so much more than their tent.
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    25 lbs. But I am carrying 2 items most would not (a dslr camera and a fishing pole for the 100 mile wilderness only which is my starting point).
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    21.1lb base cold. But I am carrying more "comfort" items (electronics and sleeping items) than most (so I am told). I'll let you know in a week if I am still carrying them Everyone else is prolly right, what I/you think you "need" turns out to be things that are only "nice" to have, but not "needed" in the end. We shall see.

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    14 pounds with no food or water. Typically carry 1-2 liters of water depending on where I am
    2 pounds of clothing on my body

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    17.6 lbs. This is disappointing as I've done a lot to try and save weight (though I wouldn't consider my efforts extreme...)

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    My summertime base weight is 9 lbs. Lots of cuben, thank you Zpacks.

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    If I'm not going to see temperatures below 40F, then my base weight is 6 lbs., 10.8 oz. Here's a link to my gear in the flesh:

    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...=534637#534637

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    Lets see......

    Pack - 3 lb. 6 oz.

    Tent - 4 lb. 11 oz.

    Pad - 1 lb.

    Bag - 2 lb. 12 oz.

    Total - 11.8125

    I haven't weighed my other gear but I'm much lighter than last year. I've bought a Boreas Lost Coast 60, Mountainsmith Morrison 2 tent, Big Agnes insulated Air Core 2.5" and a Kelty 20 degree long down bag. And I haven't even used any of them this year. Next weekend we're hiking a 17 miler and it's gonna be a bit chilly at night. Not like some of the weather in the Smokies this year......... In May we're hiking a 50 miler so I'll have a fair weight to report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Bear View Post
    \ I am still trying to figure out what's the best food on the trial, calories per oz ratio. I don't like cooking, so I only eat a hot meal for dinner.
    I found this on the Internet, but I can't locate the URL to verify.... maybe you can:

    Food - Calories per ounce (28.35 grams)

    Lard - 253
    Canola or Olive Oil - 240
    Mayonnaise - 200
    Brazil nuts - 185
    French fried onions - 180
    Fried pork rinds - 175
    Mixed nuts - 170
    Cashews (shelled) - 170
    Cocktail peanuts - 170
    Sunflower seeds (shelled) - 170
    Pringles - 170
    Peanut Butter - 166
    Almond Roca - 163
    Dry roasted peanuts - 160
    Fritos Corn Chips - 160
    Ruffles potato chips - 160
    Ritz crackers - 158
    Reese's PB Cup - 157
    Hershey's Milk Chocolate - 152
    Little Debbie Nutty Bars - 152
    Hershey Kisses - 151
    Lays potato chips - 150
    Chips Ahoy cookies - 150
    Peanut M&M's - 147
    Coconut (dried, sweetened, shredded) - 143
    Pork bacon - 140
    Cheese & peanut butter crackers - 140
    Nacho Flavored Doritos - 140
    Wheat Thins - 140
    Plain M&M's - 140
    Semi-sweet chocolate chips - 140
    Nondairy Creamer powder - 140
    Snickers candy bar - 136
    Oreo cookies - 136
    Jiffy-Pop popcorn - 135
    Goldfish crackers - 135
    Triscuits - 135
    Milky Way candy bar - 135
    Chocolate covered donuts - 135
    Baby Ruth candy bar - 132
    Pepperoni - 130
    Chex mix (prepared per instructions) - 130
    Chow Mein Noodles - 130
    Quaker 100% Natural Cereal - 129
    Nabisco Aircrisp Cheese Nip Crackers - 125
    Ramen noodles - 124
    Little Debbie fudge brownies - 124
    Saltine crackers - 120
    Cracker Jack - 120
    Powdered doughnuts - 120
    Pop Tarts (Frosted Brown Sugar, etc.) - 117
    Lipton Noodles & Sauce - 116
    Hot Cocoa mix - 115
    Trix Cereal - 115
    Little Debbie cream filled cupcakes - 113
    Cap'n Crunch - 112
    Balance Bars - 112
    Blue cheese - 110
    Longhorn cheese - 110
    Monterrey Jack cheese - 110
    Sharp cheddar cheese - 110
    Grated canned parmesan cheese - 110
    Hard Candy - 110
    Quaker Chewy Granola Bars - 110
    Pop Tarts (All Other Flavors) - 108
    Sugar-sweetened lemon drink mix - 107
    Nutri-Grain Bars - 106
    Spaghetti (100% Semolina) - 105
    Egg Noodles - 105
    Brown sugar - 105
    Jelly Beans - 105
    Fruitcake - 100 - 110
    Kraft original Mac & Cheese - 104
    Corn Chex - 103
    Cheerios - 103
    Fortune Cookies - 103
    Stove Top Stuffing Mix - 103
    Instant rice (e.g. Minute Rice) - 102
    Lipton Rice & Sauce - 102
    Wheat Chex - 101
    Bulgur (uncooked) - 100
    Rold Gold Fat Free pretzels - 100
    Melba toast - 100
    Fig Newtons - 100
    Quick Cook Oats - 100
    Grape Nuts cereal - 100
    Corn Flakes - 100
    Jello Instant Chocolate Pudding - 100
    Fruit roll-ups (store bought) - 100
    Gainers Fuel 1000 (Protein Powder) - 100
    Power Bars - 100
    Clif Bars - 100
    Pasta Roni - 100
    Cous Cous - 100
    Coconut (raw) - 100
    Cream cheese - 100
    Sugar-sweetened Kool-Aid - 98
    Nonfat Dry Milk - 98
    Maple & Brown Sugar Instant Oatmeal - 98
    Quick Grits - 98
    Instant potato flakes - 98
    Instant Miso soup - 98
    Summer sausage - 95
    Polska Kielbasa (Pork) - 95
    Rice A Roni - 95
    Raisin Bran - 92
    Raisins - 92
    Craisins (Dried cranberries) - 91
    Ballpark franks - 90
    Bologna - 90
    Velveeta - 90
    Brie cheese - 90
    Marshmallows - 90
    Flour tortillas - 89
    Spam - 85
    Pitted Dates - 84
    Cheese Whiz - 83
    Deviled ham spread - 80
    Beef Jerky (store bought) - 80
    Turkey jerky (store bought) - 80
    Honey - 80
    Jams and jellies - 80
    Sun Maid Dried Fruit Mix - 77
    Bagels - 74
    Pita bread (white) - 74
    Turkey bacon - 70
    Roman Meal bread - 70
    Dried apricots - 70
    Corn tortillas - 67
    Smuckers Grape Jelly - 63
    Sour dough English muffins - 61
    Fresh avocado - 60
    Canned Smoked Oysters in Oil - 55
    Tuna (in oil) - 52
    Cooked ham - 50
    Corned beef hash - 49
    Hummus (prepared) - 47
    Turkey Kielbasa - 45
    Canned Chicken in water - 40
    Beef or Chicken bullion - 40
    Tuna (in spring water) - 30
    Ketchup - 30
    Canadian bacon - 30
    Bananas - 26
    Tofu - 18
    Fresh apples - 15
    Raw carrots - 13
    Fresh peaches - 12
    Fresh strawberries - 9
    Fresh oranges - 9
    Asparagus - 5
    Coffee or Tea - 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Bear View Post
    Hence why I'm discussing it on a message board.

    +1

    This IS the place to discuss the nitty gritty details and minute worries that people have prior to their hike. Good for you. Some people spend too much time on here and they get agitated with seeing the same questions asked year after year. My answer to them is to go out and hike a bit more. Others spend a lot of time on here, but like to discuss this kind of stuff. Good for them too.

    BTW, My base weight is about 14 lbs.

    You should try and keep it around 15 if possible so that when you are carrying lots of water/food your pack isn't too heavy which--especially on light-weight packs--can cause the shoulder straps to start to tear.
    No worries; we're here to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coosa View Post
    I found this on the Internet, but I can't locate the URL to verify.... maybe you can:

    Food - Calories per ounce (28.35 grams)

    Lard - 253
    Canola or Olive Oil - 240
    Mayonnaise - 200
    Brazil nuts - 185
    French fried onions - 180
    Fried pork rinds - 175
    Mixed nuts - 170
    Cashews (shelled) - 170
    Cocktail peanuts - 170
    Sunflower seeds (shelled) - 170
    Pringles - 170
    Peanut Butter - 166
    Almond Roca - 163
    Dry roasted peanuts - 160
    Fritos Corn Chips - 160
    Ruffles potato chips - 160
    Ritz crackers - 158
    Reese's PB Cup - 157
    Hershey's Milk Chocolate - 152
    Little Debbie Nutty Bars - 152
    Hershey Kisses - 151
    Lays potato chips - 150
    Chips Ahoy cookies - 150
    Peanut M&M's - 147
    Coconut (dried, sweetened, shredded) - 143
    Pork bacon - 140
    Cheese & peanut butter crackers - 140
    Nacho Flavored Doritos - 140
    Wheat Thins - 140
    Plain M&M's - 140
    Semi-sweet chocolate chips - 140
    Nondairy Creamer powder - 140
    Snickers candy bar - 136
    Oreo cookies - 136
    Jiffy-Pop popcorn - 135
    Goldfish crackers - 135
    Triscuits - 135
    Milky Way candy bar - 135
    Chocolate covered donuts - 135
    Baby Ruth candy bar - 132
    Pepperoni - 130
    Chex mix (prepared per instructions) - 130
    Chow Mein Noodles - 130
    Quaker 100% Natural Cereal - 129
    Nabisco Aircrisp Cheese Nip Crackers - 125
    Ramen noodles - 124
    Little Debbie fudge brownies - 124
    Saltine crackers - 120
    Cracker Jack - 120
    Powdered doughnuts - 120
    Pop Tarts (Frosted Brown Sugar, etc.) - 117
    Lipton Noodles & Sauce - 116
    Hot Cocoa mix - 115
    Trix Cereal - 115
    Little Debbie cream filled cupcakes - 113
    Cap'n Crunch - 112
    Balance Bars - 112
    Blue cheese - 110
    Longhorn cheese - 110
    Monterrey Jack cheese - 110
    Sharp cheddar cheese - 110
    Grated canned parmesan cheese - 110
    Hard Candy - 110
    Quaker Chewy Granola Bars - 110
    Pop Tarts (All Other Flavors) - 108
    Sugar-sweetened lemon drink mix - 107
    Nutri-Grain Bars - 106
    Spaghetti (100% Semolina) - 105
    Egg Noodles - 105
    Brown sugar - 105
    Jelly Beans - 105
    Fruitcake - 100 - 110
    Kraft original Mac & Cheese - 104
    Corn Chex - 103
    Cheerios - 103
    Fortune Cookies - 103
    Stove Top Stuffing Mix - 103
    Instant rice (e.g. Minute Rice) - 102
    Lipton Rice & Sauce - 102
    Wheat Chex - 101
    Bulgur (uncooked) - 100
    Rold Gold Fat Free pretzels - 100
    Melba toast - 100
    Fig Newtons - 100
    Quick Cook Oats - 100
    Grape Nuts cereal - 100
    Corn Flakes - 100
    Jello Instant Chocolate Pudding - 100
    Fruit roll-ups (store bought) - 100
    Gainers Fuel 1000 (Protein Powder) - 100
    Power Bars - 100
    Clif Bars - 100
    Pasta Roni - 100
    Cous Cous - 100
    Coconut (raw) - 100
    Cream cheese - 100
    Sugar-sweetened Kool-Aid - 98
    Nonfat Dry Milk - 98
    Maple & Brown Sugar Instant Oatmeal - 98
    Quick Grits - 98
    Instant potato flakes - 98
    Instant Miso soup - 98
    Summer sausage - 95
    Polska Kielbasa (Pork) - 95
    Rice A Roni - 95
    Raisin Bran - 92
    Raisins - 92
    Craisins (Dried cranberries) - 91
    Ballpark franks - 90
    Bologna - 90
    Velveeta - 90
    Brie cheese - 90
    Marshmallows - 90
    Flour tortillas - 89
    Spam - 85
    Pitted Dates - 84
    Cheese Whiz - 83
    Deviled ham spread - 80
    Beef Jerky (store bought) - 80
    Turkey jerky (store bought) - 80
    Honey - 80
    Jams and jellies - 80
    Sun Maid Dried Fruit Mix - 77
    Bagels - 74
    Pita bread (white) - 74
    Turkey bacon - 70
    Roman Meal bread - 70
    Dried apricots - 70
    Corn tortillas - 67
    Smuckers Grape Jelly - 63
    Sour dough English muffins - 61
    Fresh avocado - 60
    Canned Smoked Oysters in Oil - 55
    Tuna (in oil) - 52
    Cooked ham - 50
    Corned beef hash - 49
    Hummus (prepared) - 47
    Turkey Kielbasa - 45
    Canned Chicken in water - 40
    Beef or Chicken bullion - 40
    Tuna (in spring water) - 30
    Ketchup - 30
    Canadian bacon - 30
    Bananas - 26
    Tofu - 18
    Fresh apples - 15
    Raw carrots - 13
    Fresh peaches - 12
    Fresh strawberries - 9
    Fresh oranges - 9
    Asparagus - 5
    Coffee or Tea - 0
    keep in mind that often the highest calorie per ounce foods are not the lightest food weight needed to maintain a consistent energy level. For example; I hiked 73 miles this weekend between Pearisburg and Catawba including 42 miles on Saturday. I only took 7500 calories and was able to maintain consistent energy the whole way. That food weighed between 4-4.5 lbs but was almost exclusively carbohydrates, 6000 calories being maltodextrin. By contrast, there is little chance that I would have been able to maintain the pace I did carrying 4 lbs of say cashews which actually contains 10,880 calories, 3300 more than my carry. I used to think that calorie dense foods were the best way to cut food weight on short duration hikes. After a couple years of doing that I discovered that approach is not nearly as effective as a heavier carb diet combined with deliberate burning of body fat. Of course this would not be effective for long on a thru hike due since most folks would quickly run out of fat stores to be used for energy.

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    Many folks will spend a fortune on the latest cuben fiber titanium thingie to save an ounce or two. After the big three, I don't worry too much because I can always lay off that extra piece of pie or cookie at the dinner table to drop a little weight. (might not apply to skinny folks, though). Also, be sure to leave the machete and expresso maker at home.

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