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    Has anyone else noticed that when you are in the wood,other people's kindness and all around humanness is so much greater than in normal everyday living?it seems out there no one judges or criticizes,and actually respects and truly want to get to know your fellow human.i deal with tons of people everyday an for the most part that is not the story in society.why can't we carry that from the trail into the real world

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    I agree and find that hikers are some of the best people.

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    It has a lot to do with the way shared experiances tends to make people bond.
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    Aren't you usually in a better mood when you're on vacation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronk View Post
    Aren't you usually in a better mood when you're on vacation?
    I resent the implication. I'm not on vacation when I hike. I'm just being urbanly withdrawn. If I panhandle at road crossings or when in town can we then say I'm not on vacation but persuing a vocation?

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    Has anyone else noticed that when you are in the wood,other people's kindness and all around humanness is so much greater than in normal everyday living?

    Yes, STRONGLY AGREE with ths idea.

    it seems out there no one judges or criticizes,and actually respects and truly want to get to know your fellow human.

    To this I say you haven't hiked long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine82 View Post
    it seems out there no one judges or criticizes,and actually respects and truly want to get to know your fellow human.
    Most of the time yea. Come up north or go out west and see how southern courtesy goes right out the window when a shuttle doesnt show up on time. Im picking on southerners because I have seen more often than I care to witness, grown southern men having temper tantrums on the phone with service providers. And for the record, Im a southern transplant living in NH.
    For the most part, especially away from shelters, you will see this attitude of people being nice to each other and less judgement or criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaco Taco View Post
    Most of the time yea. Come up north or go out west and see how southern courtesy goes right out the window when a shuttle doesnt show up on time. Im picking on southerners because I have seen more often than I care to witness, grown southern men having temper tantrums on the phone with service providers. And for the record, Im a southern transplant living in NH.
    For the most part, especially away from shelters, you will see this attitude of people being nice to each other and less judgement or criticism.
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    I agree with the OP and think for a lot of us, part of the reason we hike is to be around nice people. I think people who hike are inherently nicer and it goes along with the whole outdoorsy-type, nature lover, respect for the Earth (and stuff in it) kind of people.


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    When I leave my comfortable home and walk into the woods with my pack on, I'm leaving behind the infrastructure, comfort, and support systems that I rely on every day: clean water piped hot and cold to my faucet, upholstered furniture (aaaah!), sturdy walls and a roof, communication systems, reliable access to headlines, weather forecast, bank accounts, separation from the scary wild creatures and most of the biting insects. I trade all of that for whatever nature gives me, equipped only with what I can carry. In this environment, fellow travelers become my support system, my source of information, my temporary friends. In extreme circumstances, those fellow travelers may save my butt or save my life. I can't just walk past them like I would on a city sidewalk. They've become important to me, and I to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine82 View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that when you are in the wood,other people's kindness and all around humanness is so much greater than in normal everyday living?it seems out there no one judges or criticizes,and actually respects and truly want to get to know your fellow human.i deal with tons of people everyday an for the most part that is not the story in society.why can't we carry that from the trail into the real world
    Not necessarily. I've had good and bad, just like in society. I can remember the hikers sitting on the edge of a densely grown section of the Trail, having their legs stretching across the Trail and being too lazy/ill-mannered to pull them back as I tried to get by. I remember Father-Man (He's important!!) and entourage inviting me several times to join their group, both on the Trail and at a diner. This when I was very shy around the "real" hikers and probably came across as an anti-social sociopath. Not sayin' I'm not, just sayin'.

    You can see any number of threads here on WB moaning and complaining about hiker behaviors and attitudes. I think it seems like the "humaness" seems to be greater because many people are nervous or downright afraid of confronting someone about their behavior and attitude with no help around: 911, solid door and walls to retreat behind, a vehicle to speed away in. I further think that it may be that we aren't around them long enough to really get to know most of them as well as we should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daddytwosticks View Post
    Brooklyn-born, Jersey raised, now transplanted Southerner...you are dead wrong. No smiley for you.
    Say what you want but I have seen it. So I am dead wrong that I saw a group of southern men in Colorado give a shuttle driver a REALLY hard time because they gave the shuttle driver their wrong location. Or was I wrong seeing southern hikers lay into a caretaker at a tentsite because of $8? Yea Im sure I imagined it. Both instances of some of the worst attitudes I have seen out hiking were by southerners. With that said. some of the nicest folks on the trails are southerners. Wild Bill in Leadville, one of the nicest fellas you could ever meet, from Mississippi. But hey, Im dead wrong. Not looking for a fight but southern men have some of the worst tempers when it comes to the way they treat service providers. Some New Englanders are complete a**holes as well, but from my experience, New Englanders just dont talk to you and keep walking. Better than yelling at someone.

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    A nod and a smile given and a nod and a smile recieved is all I require. Just like on an elevator. I prefer not to engage with anyone outside of the person I may be hiking with, but a quick friendly gesture is acknowledgement enougb that we are out here for the same basic reasons.

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    I think there is a vast difference between encountering people "single file" as the trail tends to introduce us and meeting mobs of shoppers at the mall.

    Also significant is that people who abandon those comforts mentioned above are all somewhat weird, so we all probably tend to fit in a little more for that too.
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    I met a Yankee once. He had an attitude problem. Therefore, all Yankees must have attitude problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill Ape View Post
    I met a Yankee once. He had an attitude problem. Therefore, all Yankees must have attitude problems.

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    Im a Yankee...and a Yankee fan! Im a great guy!

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    I tend to not talk to others while hiking.... not to be a jerk but that's the exact reason why I'm hiking. I will never give someone an attitude or turn down a conversation is someone initiates it. I'm just usually good for the smile and wave
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    Yes people bond a lot easier in the woods because that's all you have in the woods is the people around you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill Ape View Post
    I met a Yankee once. He had an attitude problem. Therefore, all Yankees must have attitude problems.

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    People are people. I see all types on the trail. Online bloggers are another matter. Bloggers post things on the internet that they would not whisper to a friend or say to someone's face. Relative to those people, hikers are great. The trail is perfect. I don't know how a person could not be happy out there. I have met a few. Mostly thru zombies just trying to get to the end and missing the best part (Maine). Blah blah blah. I better go for a walk. Mahoosucs this weekend.
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