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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    Honest - You are kidding yourself. The science says otherwise. Yes it kills bacteria - no its not strong enough at dilution.
    It never occurred to me that someone would think I use vinegar to sterilize the water. I simply add it to kill the sulfur and tannin taste. I have used chlorine but Aquamira is what I usually carry. Sorry about the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bangorme View Post
    I've used both. I love Aquamira liguid. The only downside is that you have to let the two solutions sit together for 5 minutes to activate before putting it into the water. So, if you are doing 2 liters, then you are sitting there 10 minutes. Not a big thing, but there's no getting around it.

    I've used the tablets and find that they do give the water a chlorine like taste. I don't mind it, but once I found Aquamira, I never went back. Don't forget that if you are boiling to water for cooking, you don't have to purify it first (like I do every once in awhile).

    My process is to mix the two solutions in the cap of the water bottles I'm filling. Simply set in a safe location next to water source while I fill bottles. Then just dump into water, screw on cap and shake. Can do all bottles at same time.

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    Yeah, I just use the bottle cap of each bottle I'm treating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexandra View Post
    Honestly if I'm treating water I'll add a little mio or propel droplets to mask the taste. Works well for me, and if you don't add to much it can still be as refreshing as water .
    Make sure you do that AFTER the required contact time. Vitamin C will make the chlorine ineffective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynate View Post
    Yeah, I just use the bottle cap of each bottle I'm treating.
    That's a great idea! How could I have missed that option?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Kevin View Post
    Make sure you do that AFTER the required contact time. Vitamin C will make the chlorine ineffective.
    Oh yes, forgot to mention that! Thank you!

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    no love for iodine tablets? Tastes better than chlorine in my opinion and is cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanthree View Post
    no love for iodine tablets? Tastes better than chlorine in my opinion and is cheaper.
    Nope. No love at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanthree View Post
    no love for iodine tablets? Tastes better than chlorine in my opinion and is cheaper.
    I recall that a while back someone posted excerpts from studies that showed that iodine was ineffective against killing Giardia and cryptosporidium, Chlorine dioxide was moderately effective against these baddies.
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    Now that I think of it, does anyone have a working link to the military study that looked at e effectiveness of chlorine dioxide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    Now that I think of it, does anyone have a working link to the military study that looked at e effectiveness of chlorine dioxide?
    I remember that study, but can't find it now. Here's another specifically studying iodine:
    http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=get...fier=ADA453960
    The conclusions:
    iodine is marginally effective on giardia and not effective on crypto. It is effective on virus and bacteria.

    Chlorine dioxide is effective for virus, bacteria, giardia and crypto, but requires long treatment time for giardia and cryptosporidium. You might need a higher concentration of chlorine dioxide for giardia and crypto (which the tablets provide), but those are temporarily hard to find.

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    I too remember that study and have been searching through my archives for it; I'll let you know when I find it. I carried the same AquaMira from Lincoln, NH to Springer Mt. and treated my water a total of eight times getting sick zero times. I carried a Katadyn filter to Monson then sending it home; from there if I felt the need to treat the water I just broke out the stove and boiled the water using a bandana to filter the floaties out. I used the filter twice in the 100 mile; the water was frequent, cold and tasty. This is an approach I took and have taken this approach for a majority of my hikes on the AT. I also take the same approach when on the Long Trail and in the Adirondacks. I have yet to hit the trails out west, but hear the water at times can be of the highest quality. I will be purchasing a Steri Pen shortly because I would like to get away from the carcinogens in chemicals and weights of filters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanthree View Post
    no love for iodine tablets? Tastes better than chlorine in my opinion and is cheaper.
    kudos no love at all - Iodine makes me very sick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryGerman View Post
    I too remember that study and have been searching through my archives for it; I'll let you know when I find it. I carried the same AquaMira from Lincoln, NH to Springer Mt. and treated my water a total of eight times getting sick zero times.
    50 years ago when my boy scout troop hiked for two weeks in the White Mountains, we NEVER purified water. We filled our canteens right out of the streams and drink nothing else. No one got sick. I read something a few months ago that so experts think that most people that get sick in the woods don't get sick from the water, but from their own unsanitary hands after going to the bathroom. I think that's probably the case.

    That being said, the trails are so crowded now, and I find so much human and dog excrement close to the trails, that I'm not confident that people/pets aren't defecating near the water supplies. So if I don't boil it, I treat it. I'm less worried about the beavers.

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    I grew up in SE PA. Our water is chlorinated. I love the micropur tabs, love them, love them, love them. I don't really mind the tint of chlorine-lets me know it's safe to drink. I am 43, still kick'in it after using many tabs ( of micropur)

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    Quote Originally Posted by moytoy View Post
    It never occurred to me that someone would think I use vinegar to sterilize the water. I simply add it to kill the sulfur and tannin taste. I have used chlorine but Aquamira is what I usually carry. Sorry about the confusion.
    honest how does anyone reply to that,, You are clearly risking your life! how can we help you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bangorme View Post
    . I read something a few months ago that so experts think that most people that get sick in the woods don't get sick from the water, but from their own unsanitary hands after going to the bathroom. I think that's probably the case.
    I think that most of us would wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Te best way to treat your water is to wash your hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by bangorme View Post
    That being said, the trails are so crowded now, and I find so much human and dog excrement close to the trails, that I'm not confident that people/pets aren't defecating near the water supplies. So if I don't boil it, I treat it. I'm less worried about the beavers.
    I do agree with this as well. One of my favorite examples is a pristine looking stream I know of in the Berkshires that is a marked water source on the A.T. maps, it is one of the more beautiful sources i've seen and normally if I came across a source like it I wouldn't bother treating...unfortunately I am also aware that a few hundred yards upstream the A.T. Crossing the creek originates at a shallow lake owned by a summer camp, complete with a swim area, canoe, kayaks and ski boats. It's always a good idea to be cautious when dealing with water sources in an area that is a densely populated as much of the Appalachian trail.
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    If you've never been to the beach you haven't had awful tasting water... I drank stream water treated with aqua mira and it wasnt bad at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bangorme View Post
    I've used both. I love Aquamira liguid. The only downside is that you have to let the two solutions sit together for 5 minutes to activate before putting it into the water. So, if you are doing 2 liters, then you are sitting there 10 minutes. Not a big thing, but there's no getting around it.


    Uh, yeah there is an easy way around it. Just carry one of those little plastic covers that come on small disposable water bottles. They are flat bottomed, clear, and weigh almost nothing. If you don't want to do that, then just mix the solution in the lids of your liter bottles.
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    I have lots of experience with chlorine dioxide, specifically Micropur tablets. They take forever to work(as does AM) and the taste is only mediocre. It's not even that light when you think how long you are having to carry water before you can drink it. Sawyer Squeeze(and now the Mini) for me.

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