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    The lightest will be titanium, titanium, titanium....
    The burners work great, but I hope you have better luck with the pot than I did. It burned everything I cooked, even on a slow simmer. I returned it to REI.
    No such problems with aluminum.

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    What kind of cooking you do affects the pot you should use. I use the snowpeak bowl (holds 20 oz, $16.95 at REI) with aluminum foil lid. It works great for boiling water and light cooking. For doing real cooking I'd more likely use a hard anodized aluminum pot that is a bit deeper.

    For a stove I usually use an old Snowpeak giga stove. For colder weather I'd use a Fire Maple stove that allows inverting the canister. For really cold weather I'd use my Optimus Nova white gas/kerosene stove.

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    my gnat (1.7 oz) and zelph flat bottom 2 cup pot (1.05 oz with lid) weigh a whopping 2.75 oz together.

    The zelph flat bottom pot has a steel bottom, and works fine with a cannister stove, at least with me because I turn the heat down so it takes about 8-9 min to boil water, just like alcohol, and the fuel usage is on par with a jetboil, as low as 0.18 oz-0.2 oz per 2 cup boil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyWaters View Post
    my gnat (1.7 oz) and zelph flat bottom 2 cup pot (1.05 oz with lid) weigh a whopping 2.75 oz together.

    The zelph flat bottom pot has a steel bottom, and works fine with a cannister stove, at least with me because I turn the heat down so it takes about 8-9 min to boil water, just like alcohol, and the fuel usage is on par with a jetboil, as low as 0.18 oz-0.2 oz per 2 cup boil.
    The steel bottom is well adapted to wood fires also. It should withstand the heat of all canister stoves.


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    lol, beat me to it- for what it's worth Zelph- here ya go.
    Matt likely did it best- as you can see- not quite a circular or even spread.
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    And yes Zelph, regardless of the color, if Caffin says it's a winner, it's a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Bill View Post
    And yes Zelph, regardless of the color, if Caffin says it's a winner, it's a winner.
    Come and get you Boy/s Them ole rhode-islqand freshy breakfest for alwa76s

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    Quote Originally Posted by July View Post
    Come and get you Boy/s Them ole rhode-islqand freshy breakfest for alwa76s
    Yee Ha...WhiteTop... Com on dogs, REALLY? Inquire on Laurel Ave. I LOVE Where I am...

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    Quote Originally Posted by July View Post
    Yee Ha...WhiteTop... Com on dogs, REALLY? Inquire on Laurel Ave. I LOVE Where I am...
    Okay, chin head needs to spin... I feel without **** as to be connected to this pos. Its OK Big dog gonnawake up and eat.

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    It's suppose to arrive tomorrow. With the holiday on Friday it might arrive on Tuesday. We'll have to wait and see

    I suspect it's going to fit well. It's going to be the best thing since sliced bread You'll be able to have the pot stay on even if the ground is slanted or the floor of the shelter is bowed. If the pot is bumped a little it will still remain on the pot supports, no more lost water due to pots sliding off.

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    When backpacking and camping with my wife, we love this insulated Stanley cookset. It has 2 super-convenient, indestructable cups, and is $15 on a bad day and I don't know what it weighs but its not a lot. The whole thing clamps closed and is self-contained. Got it at Sports Authority for car camping and it became our couples backpacking fave too. Even used it on the campfire. I also got a snow peak 900 titanium set at the REI garage sale for half price - though missing the kinda essential mesh bag, which came along for the ride but was only used to hold the stove and canister... some things are worth a little extra weight. If you don't need the cups, its probably half the weight. We just like having those, they're very easy and pleasant to make a cup of coffee in and easier to wash.

    http://www.grainger.com/product/21EL...140707155628:s

    The snow peak set I would use going out on my own since i don't need cups then and it DOES nicely contain the pocket rocket and canister. What is not-so-good about it though is that without that bag, this doesn't latch together to stay closed like a decent mess kit should, so I use a small ditty bag.But weight-wise this is a good option when solo.

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    just found some specs. also i guess the price depends on where you get it. the link i posted says $26 but it can be found cheaper for sure.

    13.9 oz w/ cups
    7.9 oz w/o plastic cups.

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    Old camp website lists the stove and their XTS pot but that's all! I could not buy anything - no shopping cart link and what is worse their email address returns a "couldn't be found".
    Miles to go before I sleep. R. Frost

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    Olicamp (*&€£\)! spell checker.
    Anyway I found it on Amazon.
    Miles to go before I sleep. R. Frost

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    Bill. it been a long ride and lots of fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelph View Post
    Bill. it been a long ride and lots of fun.

    Just one tip about the arms on both stoves...they wiggle a little too much for me so I tapped on the rivets with a small hammer to tighten them up. I had the Olicamp but lost my cook kit bag so I got the FireFly and both worked/are Working great.
    Tridavis

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    NOOOOOOO! Eleven page stove nerd thread, don't make me read it in sick fascination (I probably will and hate myself for it).

    LOL, regarding the canister stoves though- I thought that was the final call from the BPL boys- as high as you can without spilling the flame.

    You alchy sicko's can make anything work, which I say of course with the utmost respect and politeness I reserve for any mentally ill people I encounter.

    Although this stove isn't really spilling the flame- it is quite creatively using the pot wall (and little ridge) to transfer all the heat of the small flame- pretty cool.
    I have a bucket of homemade ones sitting at home too- but one day I caught myself pouring a beer out in order to make a stove out of it and realized that I had a problem.
    With the help of Esbit I have recovered, since that day I haven't spilled a drop of beer, not even when scrubbing esbit crud off the bottom of my pots.

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    My Xcelerator Ultra Titanium (the "ultra" makes it twice as fast) came in today. Stove alone but in its net bag 120 grams. 104 without the bag. The XT pot 218 grams with lid, 190 witout. The Xcelerator Wil not fit in the pot recess on the bottom even with the supports folded in. Just a fraction too big. That may be solvable thiugh.
    Miles to go before I sleep. R. Frost

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    There are ways of storing your canister stove attached to the canister. Use a caddy available at TrailDesigns.com

    Watch the video and see how easy it is. Want your food fast in the evenings when you're exhausted? This kit is what you need:



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