Quote Originally Posted by Five Tango View Post
I am curious as to why you say the pad in the WB Blackbird is a disaster?I tried one in mine,a 25 inch Thermarest Ridgerest and it was fine although the character of the pad itself was somewhat hard but otherwise satisfactory.It's my warm weather set up while a Dutch Argon Hammock with a Jacks R Better Winter Nest is my cold weather ride.Most people that try down never go back to pads is the impression I get and I would not have a pad in summer but for not wanting to pay for one.Sure would like to have a 3/4 UQ for warm weather as my JRB Nest is overkill then.

Because of the "calf ridge" and "foot box" the pad just never lays right.
I confess to generally disliking the WBBB. That hammock gives me severe leg cramps.

On a different note, maybe the thing I hate most about it is the one side entry. That limits the hang options to get the view you want.
For example, let's say I'm trying to hang between two trees near the stream where the bank drops off sharply to the water. I want a view with my head to the left, feet toward the right, and a view to the right. I am forced to enter from the left side which puts entry on the drop off side. Very inconvenient. My only option is to hang with entry to the accessible side and my view is in the wrong direction.

The limited view/hang direction combined with the uncomfortable calf ridge makes this hammock virtually useless to me except as a loaner.

To each his own. I know the WBBB is popular among many people. But i'll take either the Clarks or the Dream Hammock every day. They are both more comfortable and I can enter both from either side.