ISO: MSR Titan kettle. May consider other similar products, but key features I need are a) similar volume and b) a lid that stays secure (ideally without holding) while pouring into freezer bags for meals. Thanks
ISO: MSR Titan kettle. May consider other similar products, but key features I need are a) similar volume and b) a lid that stays secure (ideally without holding) while pouring into freezer bags for meals. Thanks
Just to be clear, you are looking for a USED MSR Titan kettle? Because the product is still offered at tons of stores.
If your sole purpose of this product is for pouring boiling water into freezer/dehy bags, why don't you take a look at this:
https://www.rei.com/product/768513/g...FQ4uaQodQ_wA9Q
Yes, its the world's longest URL!
Back to the GSI kettle. It holds almost a full litre, the lid is secure, it heats way quick and best of all....its only 25 bucks brand new at REI....can you tell I've used/use one?
BTW, I prefer aluminum to titanium for better heat distribution for faster boiling times...YMMV...the GSI kettle does weigh a whole ounce more than the titanium MSR Titan kettle, but holds .10 litre more liquid...and costs less than half...
that gsi style kettle above is fine for just boiling water. I have used both types. Drawbacks to gsi kettle are 1.8 oz heavier, a bit harder to store stuff in, and less versatile if you decide to cook other stuff, use it as a cup/ bowl, etc
OP was only seeking info on kettles whose lids stay on whilst pouring boiling water into a bag. I prefaced my post with the caveat that the the GSI was unitasking and that it was an ounce over the weight of the MSR...F F S ...and then cited salient facts if all you were doing was boiling water, like faster heat times(less fuel) and dramatically reduced cost with a 10 percent increase in liquid capacity. Of course a kettle isn't going to be useful for cooking things in.......sheesh....
Aluminum doesn't heat faster than Titanium when boiling water. Better heat dispersion depending upon thickness (and weight!), although thin Al is only slightly better at best for actual cooking.
I've tested this myself, but some will not let go of the myth in spite of concrete evidence.
I'm sure that science is correct.
Another myth: titanium cookware is lighter than aluminum. Sometimes. Not always. It depends. Only a scale will have the proof.
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The problem with the graph, and the post below it is the thickness of the metal is not taken into account. Al will be thicker, and uses the thickness and the properties of AL to distribute that heat pretty efficiently. Ti is thinner, does not conduct heat as well, but because it is thin the heat gets to the water quickly. Thus in a boil water test they will be about the same but TI will have a much more concentrated hot zone while AL will have it more spread out. This comes into play when cooking, as opposed to boiling water, things will burn easier with a thin Ti pot because those spots are so hot, while the area under the flame is comparatively cool.
Yes the same heat energy is getting through the pot, but distributed much differently.
The difference in thickness does also play into the weight so Ti is not always lighter, and per unit volumn actually heavier then AL.
Even for cooking the difference is very little. I've burned oatmeal in both using BRS, SP Giga, JB and even an alcohol stove.
The only way to truly reduce the hot spot with these small, thin pots—whether Al or Ti—is to get a stove with a wide burner head and fine simmer control. Or use something like a Scorchbuster or similar MYOG heat diffuser.
Last edited by cmoulder; 12-04-2016 at 20:56.
I have a MSR Titan kettle for sale, $35 includes shipping to lower 48. PM me if you're interested.
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No longer needed, thanks!